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  • JustinFloyd
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    #2351
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    You cats are stand up posters!

    I thought Manny did win every round after the 6th but the 8th could've gone either way.

    It seems a combination of pressure and fatigue is what you guys are citing. I know once he started throwing really hard and missing that his energy would deplete even quicker.

    I really thought after the 6th rd if Tim stuck to the game plan he would've put himself in position to win the fight.
    How can he stick to his "Game Plan" like on early rounds, as you said, keeping pressure on Pac and missing wild punches depleted his energy quicker. If he pace himself like his other fights and their first fight, it will be the same story as the first fight, lopsided win for Pac.

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    • Evol
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      #2352
      Originally posted by JustinFloyd
      How can he stick to his "Game Plan" like on early rounds, as you said, keeping pressure on Pac and missing wild punches depleted his energy quicker. If he pace himself like his other fights and their first fight, it will be the same story as the first fight, lopsided win for Pac.
      thank u! i dont understand why some poster on here keeps making it seem like tim just switch his game plan because he wanted too for no reason.

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      • Evol
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        #2353
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        EVol, whats up.

        I am not acting like anything. That is what I saw. I asked rome what he thought.

        I'm not saying Tim would have won, but he was even going into 7. I saw no reason to change up at that point. The reason I say change up because he won the 6th IMO and didn't take much punishment.

        I'm sure Manny's power had an affect. Its just strange to think Tim thought he could win by KO, given he hasn't KO'd anyone at ww except Casamayor who was well past it and had never been at 147 (i think)
        tim was banking on the whole pac is not the same anymore so he went in for the kill. had he box the fight would still end up the same way with pac winning. its like u guys are low key making excuses. i remember in the 4th fight with pac/marquez, after the fight was over some pac fans on here was saying if pac would have kept it up fighting the way he fought in the early rounds 1-2, marquez would have lost, etc. and the reply to that was pac couldnt keep up fighting that way because of what marquez was doing. this is the same for why tim switch up his game plan against pac in the rematch.

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        • lamadoo
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          #2354
          Did you guys not see that stiff jab on the 8th round by Pacquiao? Bradley was badly rocked by it, fell onto the ropes with his mouth open, head rocking.

          great great fight. Never thought bradley had it in him, loved his gameplan to KO pacquiao, that i believe was his only way to win and win the respect of the fans. no way could he outbox pacquiao, he just got dominated doing that in the 1st fight and the judges would be pressured to favor pacquiao

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            #2355
            Originally posted by JustinFloyd
            How can he stick to his "Game Plan" like on early rounds, as you said, keeping pressure on Pac and missing wild punches depleted his energy quicker. If he pace himself like his other fights and their first fight, it will be the same story as the first fight, lopsided win for Pac.
            Originally posted by Evol
            thank u! i dont understand why some poster on here keeps making it seem like tim just switch his game plan because he wanted too for no reason.
            He didn't start with the one punch KO crap and the posturing and posin until late in the fight.

            If you watched the fight, Tim seemed to just change up. His corner felt basically the same thing. There was no real "turning point" that suggested tim needed to change how he was fighting. He literally stopped boxing.

            When he did this in the Provodnikov fight, he had been knocked down and hit with dozens of flush. He was well behind on the cards. That wasn't what happened in this fight, which is why alot of people are asking this.

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              #2356
              Originally posted by lamadoo
              Did you guys not see that stiff jab on the 8th round by Pacquiao? Bradley was badly rocked by it, fell onto the ropes with his mouth open, head rocking.

              great great fight. Never thought bradley had it in him, loved his gameplan to KO pacquiao, that i believe was his only way to win and win the respect of the fans. no way could he outbox pacquiao, he just got dominated doing that in the 1st fight and the judges would be pressured to favor pacquiao
              how is trying to get a KO a good strategy for a fighter with 10 career KO's and only one above 140 lbs, against a shot Casamayor who was a career LW?

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              • lamadoo
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                #2357
                ONLY guy who ever gave Pacquiao trouble was Marquez, the well-rounded & confusing fighter Bradley tried to exploit and mimic Marquez style for the W


                ^did you honestly predict bradley would go balls to the walls, pressure and beable to push Pacquiao back? They did not see this coming, if it weren't for Pacquuiaos experience, he would of lost.

                Bradley has developed his power, rocked Marquez and made Provodnikov piss blood. On that 4th round, he looked monstrous with that right haymaker that lifted manny off his feet. Roach told him not to stay in the pocket since he would get KO and to outbox him.

                Its a good gameplan, he did well the 1st 6 rounds, do you honestly believe he could outbox Manny and win a UD? he got dominated the 1st game trying to ride his bicycle. even if he could somehow outpoint Manny's vast number of punch statistics, the judges would favor Pacquiao regardless and he'll never earn the respect of the fans. Bradley did well, alot better than the 1st fight and there was no other way for him, just listen to his trainer Diaz and Bradley himself, im sure they know more than you do about boxing.


                Freddie Roach was disappointed in himself for preparing the wrong fight. Pacquiao is an aging legend, his experience earned him the victory here.


                Last edited by lamadoo; 04-23-2014, 09:55 AM.

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                  #2358
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  You cats are stand up posters!

                  I thought Manny did win every round after the 6th but the 8th could've gone either way.

                  It seems a combination of pressure and fatigue is what you guys are citing. I know once he started throwing really hard and missing that his energy would deplete even quicker.

                  I really thought after the 6th rd if Tim stuck to the game plan he would've put himself in position to win the fight.
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  He didn't start with the one punch KO crap and the posturing and posin until late in the fight.

                  If you watched the fight, Tim seemed to just change up. His corner felt basically the same thing. There was no real "turning point" that suggested tim needed to change how he was fighting. He literally stopped boxing.

                  When he did this in the Provodnikov fight, he had been knocked down and hit with dozens of flush. He was well behind on the cards. That wasn't what happened in this fight, which is why alot of people are asking this.
                  You acting ****** again Dunn, bolded to you again.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #2359
                    Originally posted by lamadoo
                    ONLY guy who ever gave Pacquiao trouble was Marquez, the well-rounded & confusing fighter Bradley tried to exploit and mimic Marquez style for the W


                    ^did you honestly predict bradley would go balls to the walls, pressure and beable to push Pacquiao back? They did not see this coming, if it weren't for Pacquuiaos experience, he would of lost.

                    Bradley has developed his power, rocked Marquez and made Provodnikov piss blood. On that 4th round, he looked monstrous with that right haymaker that lifted manny off his feet. Roach told him not to stay in the pocket since he would get KO and to outbox him.

                    Its a good gameplan, he did well the 1st 6 rounds, do you honestly believe he could outbox Manny and win a UD? he got dominated the 1st game trying to ride his bicycle. even if he could somehow outpoint Manny's vast number of punch statistics, the judges would favor Pacquiao regardless and he'll never earn the respect of the fans. Bradley did well, alot better than the 1st fight and there was no other way for him, just listen to his trainer Diaz and Bradley himself, im sure they know more than you do about boxing.


                    Freddie Roach was disappointed in himself for preparing the wrong fight. Pacquiao is an aging legend, his experience earned him the victory here.


                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnq1ZVQGYSE
                    He was even through 6 IMO so clearly the gameplan was effective seeing as how IMO he lost the 1st 8 rds in the 1st fight.

                    You wrote alot but avoided the point-why is it a good strategy for someone with no KO power who is an above average boxer to try and win by KO? That, IMO, is as silly as Canelo trying to outbox floyd.

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                      #2360
                      Originally posted by JustinFloyd
                      You acting ****** again Dunn, bolded to you again.
                      I already answered. I'll leave you alone.

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