Jesus Chavez talks about Barrera, also info on Hamed

[AIR_KENG]

that proves MAB is better than morales

head to head match-up, yes... IMO MAB won all three morales figths... but over all, i'll give it morales...

[JOM'S]

one THEORETICAL question guys (specially to my Mexican Amigos)...

if MAB beats chavez and win his 4th world title (he will be the first Mexican Fighter to do this) then he re-matches PAC and beats him (hopefully not), considering he beat another all time great Mexican Fighter of his time in Erik Morales (arguably 2 out of 3) ...

could he be considered as Mexican Greatest Fighter?? if not how high can he go up on the list of all time Mexican Greats??? if he is able to DO all of the above ...

[grayfist]

This is another great fight for 2006. Hope chavez won't be affected by leavander's death. I say chavez wins this fight via 11th round KO. MAB maybe the more skillful fighter but I think chavez can take his strongest punch. JC has a killer punch if you know what i'm saying.

I share your view, buddy. (And, if we're wrong we can share a diet of crow )

The way I see it, Marco does not have the power at Lightweight to take out someone like Chavez who gave Erik quite a fight even though pieces of his equipment were not in good shape. On the other hand, Jesus has what it takes. Any of Marco's punches won't give Chavez pause. Chavez can take two or three to land one biggie.

Marco has the better skills, and that's a given. But it would be folly to deny that Jesus has more than an even chance.

[psychopath]

I'm praying for a Chavez victory.

[grayfist]

I wonder...

If Marco wins over Jesus, will the WBC declare the SuperFeather division championship vacant?

If so, if Pacquiao meets Jauruegi in a so-called tune-up, won't the tune-up become a WBC SuperFeather championship fight for the vacated crown, given that Pac, who was no.2 until he beat Erik (who had been on top), must now be declared number 1, and Javier who tailed Pac at number 3 now becomes number two in the ratings?

What about MAB's other title, the IBF version?

[psychopath]

I wonder...

If Marco wins over Jesus, will the WBC declare the SuperFeather division championship vacant?

If so, if Pacquiao meets Jauruegi in a so-called tune-up, won't the tune-up become a WBC SuperFeather championship fight for the vacated crown, given that Pac, who was no.2 until he beat Erik (who had been on top), must now be declared number 1, and Javier who tailed Pac at number 3 now becomes number two in the ratings?

What about MAB's other title, the IBF version?

Bro the fact is, win or lose Barrera will automatically be stripped of his WBC belt and title. I have read a lengthly discussion on this in a publication and based on that it, appears that it is WBC's policy to strip their Champs and declare the title vacant once he fights in another weight category. It was also mentioned that Pac and the number 2 or 3 in the list will fight for the belt.

The IBF I'm not sure. But if Barrera loses to Chavez and he retained his IBF Super Featherweight title, him and Pac can meet in a unification bout later if Pac is succesful(which is very much likely) in getting the WBC version.

[grayfist]

Bro the fact is, win or lose Barrera will automatically be stripped of his WBC belt and title. I have read a lengthly discussion on this in a publication and based on that it, appears that it is WBC's policy to strip their Champs and declare the title vacant once he fights in another weight category. It was also mentioned that Pac and the number 2 or 3 in the list will fight for the belt.

The IBF I'm not sure. But if Barrera loses to Chavez and he retained his IBF Super Featherweight title, him and Pac can meet in a unification bout later if Pac is succesful(which is very much likely) in getting the WBC version.

Hi pal!

I'm going with bated breath to see what happens post- MAB/Chavez. I checked WBC's web site and it seems the ratings for SuperFeather has not been updated (as of yesterday when I posted that initial post on this thread) in that Erik still ranks ahead of Pac in that list. However, Jaureigi tails only Manny in there and, since he had not lost a fight since then, he ought to be No. 2 by now.

That got me thinking that if Jaureigi is made Pac's "tune-up" foe, that tune-up could quickly become a WBC championship for the vacant crown.

The statement I made about the WBC's declaration of vacancy was a hedge, pal. I've been burned before when relying too much on alphabet stated rules. Those guys can say one thing today and another tomorrow. But if they keep to that policy an interesting turn of events may be awaiting!

I reckon, if Marco loses to Chavez, he'd be left without a crown (granting that IBF goes the same way as WBC). If Pac and Jaureigi meet, and, Pac wins, Marco can find himself on the outside looking in. If he wants a 2nd meeting with Pac, he'll have to settle for the smaller purse. You think he would, buddy? Or would the matter of the purse be something that would avert that second meeting. You know...

If IBF takes a different path than that which would be taken by WBC, and retains Marco as champ (it has retained other champs for worse reasons), then that unification set-to can be MAB's chance for an equal purse. Marco's camp, I hope, is praying that IBF takes this road after the Chavez fight (if MAB loses that). Otherwise, the whole scheme of taking on Chavez, other than to give vent to MAB's ambition to be the only Mexican champ to win 4 titles in 4 wqeight classes (an ambition worthy of kudos, by the way), may be something they'd regret.

[AIR_KENG]

Bro the fact is, win or lose Barrera will automatically be stripped of his WBC belt and title. I have read a lengthly discussion on this in a publication and based on that it, appears that it is WBC's policy to strip their Champs and declare the title vacant once he fights in another weight category. It was also mentioned that Pac and the number 2 or 3 in the list will fight for the belt.

The IBF I'm not sure. But if Barrera loses to Chavez and he retained his IBF Super Featherweight title, him and Pac can meet in a unification bout later if Pac is succesful(which is very much likely) in getting the WBC version.

i have also read that MAB won'tbe stripped of his WBC belt. Which is which bro??? I also know that whever you move in another weight class, you will be stripped of your title... but not in barrera's case i guess...

and about the seedings, pac is still rated number two and erik is still number for wbc... reason: the last fight was not sanctioned by wbc to be a title eliminator because pac's camp didn't want to pay the fee... so erik is still in the top conender spot...

[hitmanhomey]

I haven't seen Chavez but I watched Barrera-Morales I, Barrera-Pacquiao and Pacquiao-Morales II over the past couple weeks, and I have to say that it doesn't look like Manny has much to worry about from these guys in rematches. Remember Emmanuel Steward? He pretty much said "I don't think MAB/Morales is going to want a rematch after this." Maybe they'll convince themselves otherwise when the money grows, but I think Manny's work rate in the first couple rounds will put either or them into deja vu mode. I'd rather see Manny in with a couple other threatening guys first - Marquez especially.

RE Hamed - Don't you think that Iole misses the point about MAB's shutout? It wasn't sticking the jab in his face that made it happen. It was footwork.

[grayfist]

i have also read that MAB won'tbe stripped of his WBC belt. Which is which bro??? I also know that whever you move in another weight class, you will be stripped of your title... but not in barrera's case i guess...

and about the seedings, pac is still rated number two and erik is still number for wbc... reason: the last fight was not sanctioned by wbc to be a title eliminator because pac's camp didn't want to pay the fee... so erik is still in the top conender spot...

WBC version of IBF's Zab-Baldomir, eh, pal?