Greatest Middleweights Ever: Revisited

[soul_survivor]

I would more compare SRR's Middleweight reign to Hopkins' Light Heavyweight reign.

Really?

Robinson beat about 5 or 6 HOFers at 160, all of whom were past or future champions, many of them he beat by KO. Hopkins has not beaten a single fighter at 175 who may be regarded as a future HOFer, his best opponent was Calzaghe, who he lost too.

Robinson became more of a puncher at 160 and as his career progressed and his legs weakened yet he still managed to be the top mw of the 50s, a decade packed with some great middleweight champions, contenders and fighters. His run includes KOs of Fullmer, Olson and Turpin, future and past champions all.

Robinson post-prime run at middle is far better than Hopkins reign as champion and I believe Hagler's run at middle too (not by much in case of the latter).

[New England]

I would more compare SRR's Middleweight reign to Hopkins' Light Heavyweight reign.

yikes.

[New England]

You pretty much hit all of them.

His legacy at 140-147 is not in question, and he is a top Middleweight for sure. I still say he is the best of all time. On a p4p scale I don't think he's overrated a bit. I think that some of his opponents, namely Basilio and Lamotta are overrated because they beat an old or smaller SRR.

That's not taking into account the eye test. It's really hard to do these list because of that. Things were much different with fighters fighting multiple times a month and weighing in the day of.

The limited footage that I've seen of a guy like Greb is laughable. Boxing has evolved, athletes have evolved. He would be nothing more than a club fighter with that style.

by limited footage, i'm assuming you mean the film reel of his "sparring session" with a retired friend [jack obrien] in his 40's?

don't put any stock into that, man. when i say "any," i mean any. they're literally smiling. it's not sparring the way you see guys who only fight 2x a year have to spar.