Vitali Klitschko has won 215 rds.......

[KBRO]

boxing is not like anyother sport. everyone respects them just not enough to put either in the top 20 atg hw list

You can't be the MOST dominant champion in heavyweight boxing history & NOT be in the top 20. I could list Vitali Klitschko's top 20 heavyweight records if you're still in denial.

[KBRO]

I thought it was kinda obvious Wlad is the more dominant of the two. He's got 15 title defenses and a far longer reign. Foreman's got 68 KOs out of 76 wins and not even all of those are his prime, shouldn't that be considered for this whole weak comp destruction deal?

Foreman is more quantity.. Vitali's Ko to win ratio is actually the best ever for a heavyweight champion at 91% (that doesn't even include the ko they stole from him in the Briggs fight) Vitali Klitschko also has been taken less to the distance out of any other heavyweight champion.. that's just two records right there.. Again Wlad is more about quantity than quality. Vitali has the higher overall winning % & overall KO%... NOT TO MENTION.. Vitali has been undefeated as heavyweight champion even longer than Wlad has been now.

[GeneralZod]

Foreman is more quantity.. Vitali's Ko to win ratio is actually the best ever for a heavyweight champion at 91% (that doesn't even include the ko they stole from him in the Briggs fight) Vitali Klitschko also has been taken less to the distance out of any other heavyweight champion.. that's just two records right there.. Again Wlad is more about quantity than quality. Vitali has the higher overall winning % & overall KO%... NOT TO MENTION.. Vitali has been undefeated as heavyweight champion even longer than Wlad has been now.

But isn't the main topic of this thread regarding quantity?

[Cutthroat]

Quality>Quantity.

Now tell me how many ATG opponents Vitali has faced.

[GeneralZod]

Quality>Quantity.

Now tell me how many ATG opponents Vitali has faced.

One exactly.

[KBRO]

But isn't the main topic of this thread regarding quantity?

Nope...... quality.... all about percentages.. Yes.. losing 20 rds is quantity related.. but it's winning them at an unheard of 91% that is unprecedented.. not to mention the practically 90% stoppage rate... no one in ANY weight class has ever combined the two most important aspects of winning a boxing match in such devastating fashion the way he has... it's safe to say he's the ONLY member of the 90/90 club.. even Deontay Wilder can't say this.

[Pugilist King]

You can't be the MOST dominant champion in heavyweight boxing history & NOT be in the top 20. I could list Vitali Klitschko's top 20 heavyweight records if you're still in denial.

quality over quantity. ever heard of a paper champ? thats what vitali is. he couldnt win against the best fighters he fought. he is a good fighter and a great person just not a great atg hw boxer.

[Pugilist King]

Nope...... quality.... all about percentages.. Yes.. losing 20 rds is quantity related.. but it's winning them at an unheard of 91% that is unprecedented.. not to mention the practically 90% stoppage rate... no one in ANY weight class has ever combined the two most important aspects of winning a boxing match in such devastating fashion the way he has... it's safe to say he's the ONLY member of the 90/90 club.. even Deontay Wilder can't say this.

yeah but those other weight classes have had many greatly skilled fighters and quality opposition. vitali had neither besides himself, his brother, and david haye.

vitali got whooped in sparring by james toney

[KBRO]

Quality>Quantity.

Now tell me how many ATG opponents Vitali has faced.

He's faced one through no fault of his own & ofcourse he beat up his brother in the early years. The one alltime great he did face saw enough to never enter the boxing ring with gloves on ever again... so that's just an example of his capability against one of the very best ever.

[DoktorSleepless]

Like Cliff Rold succinctly said,

Boxing isn't Baseball. It's not a game whose history is tied intrinsically to its numbers. Boxing's history is richly colored by its anecdotes, its larger than life legends, and the fights that defined them.