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  • soul_survivor
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    #31
    Originally posted by sunny31
    No he's not - the British Board of Boxing Control tests fighters all year round, in fact there are plenty of examples of them turning up to high profile fighters houses randomly to test them, Khan included. Get your head out of your arse!
    Don't be ****** man, the BBBoCs scheme is very different to true 24/7, 365 testing. If you don't know that then I'm not going to explain it to you. Do your own research, it may help.

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    • radioraheem
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      #32
      Originally posted by badnewsbrown
      USADA allow 4:1 BEFORE they do a carbon isotope ratio test
      USADA does CIR on every sample regardless. You're making up lies and probably got that from Victor Conte (silent leader of VADA).

      http://www.usada.org/cotto-mayweather

      All athletes tested by USADA are held to the standard of strict liability and are responsible for any prohibited substances that could be found in their body.

      All urine samples were analyzed for EPO and by CIR, and all blood samples were tested for the presence of hGH. Collections were conducted using a balanced test distribution schedule, and with no allowances for black-out or cut-off dates.

      For general questions regarding USADA's anti-doping program, please visit the FAQs in the Resources section of this site. (Other policy and education publications and videos are also available in this section). You may also contact the USADA communications department at 719-785-2046 or 719-785-2047.

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      • way2strong
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        #33
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        USADA does CIR on every sample regardless. You're making up lies and probably got that from Victor Conte (silent leader of VADA).

        http://www.usada.org/cotto-mayweather
        what part of they allow 4:1 don't you inderstand Lamont peterson was doing well with his cheating ways probably with usada intill he signed to use vada and failed with a below 4:1

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        • ADP02
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          #34
          Originally posted by LarryXXX
          Khan already does random testing and so does Floyd..whats the point of this random thread?
          That is what they were saying about Lance Armstrong and he did the full fledged OST for years ....... and we all know what happened there. Fortunately, cycling is a team effort and the team blabbed.

          If Floyd is still taking them drugs to get advantages, I don't think Ellerbe nor uncle Roger would say anything ....

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            #35
            Originally posted by UTEP
            Isn't Xylocaine illegal in every state except for Nevada? SMDH, no wonder why Floyd only fights in Vegas
            Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
            How about just asking for no Xylocaine :rofl"


            Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada

            De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.

            http://www.thefreelibrary.com/DE+LA+...29-a0122340014


            Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

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            Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

            http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

            Tested as far back as 1989

            As Kizer explained it, fighters must, under penalty of perjury, sign a statement at the fight weigh ins discloosing what, if any, pain or other serious medication they have used or plan to use anytime between the weigh in and fight time.

            “Mayweather has never disclosed any such information so, as far as we are concerned, this is not any kind of issue. I know the ardent Pacquiao fans talk a lot about but to us it's the same as the speculation about Pacquiao using any sort of drugs which comes from the Mayweather fans out there. Both of them have always tested clean in Nevada.”

            Kizer said he could name other boxers who have asked permission to use aspirin, Lidocaine, cortisone and other “pain the****utic” medications.

            (Nevada commission director Keith Kizer)

            http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxin...ands-are-clean

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              #36
              Originally posted by CLUE
              Its Tested For and is Banned In Nevada

              De La Hoya was given a shot of Lidocaine the day of the injury to numb the cut area so the stitches could be taken. Lidocaine is a substance banned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. But Marc Ratner, CEO of the commission, said there is no violation as long as De La Hoya informed the commission when he took it and why.

              http://www.thefreelibrary.com/DE+LA+...29-a0122340014


              Kizer confirmed yesterday that lidocaine is banned for use by boxers within a week of a bout. “If lidocaine is injected,” he said, “the pain receptors in the boxer may not work and he may not know if he is hurt.” He also confirmed that lidocaine would be tested for after the bout, at the Quest Diagnostics laboratory in the city.

              The latest breaking UK, US, world, business and sport news from The Times and The Sunday Times. Go beyond today's headlines with in-depth analysis and comment.




              Nevada boxing officials said yesterday they would fine and probably suspend Lloyd Honeyghan. They said the British fighter tested positive for the painkilling drug lidocaine after losing his World Boxing Council welterweight title to Marlon Starling on Feb. 4.

              http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...l?pagewanted=1

              Tested as far back as 1989

              As Kizer explained it, fighters must, under penalty of perjury, sign a statement at the fight weigh ins discloosing what, if any, pain or other serious medication they have used or plan to use anytime between the weigh in and fight time.

              Mayweather has never disclosed any such information so, as far as we are concerned, this is not any kind of issue. I know the ardent Pacquiao fans talk a lot about but to us it's the same as the speculation about Pacquiao using any sort of drugs which comes from the Mayweather fans out there. Both of them have always tested clean in Nevada.”

              Kizer said he could name other boxers who have asked permission to use aspirin, Lidocaine, cortisone and other “pain the****utic” medications.

              (Nevada commission director Keith Kizer)

              http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxin...ands-are-clean
              but the thing is that Floyd admitted to using it on fight night.

              "Floyd, did you have to take a shot of drugs on one hand or both" - Larry Merchant
              "Both" - Floyd Mayweather


              At 10 :00 min mark:

              Last edited by ADP02; 01-20-2014, 08:53 PM.

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              • CLUE
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                #37
                Originally posted by ADP02
                but the thing is that Floyd admitted to using it on fight night.

                "Floyd, did you have to take a shot of drugs on one hand or both" - Larry Merchant
                "Both" - Floyd Mayweather


                At 10 :00 min mark:

                Fight happened in Michigan. Go figure out what the rules are there at the time. As for Nevada this pain killer is banned and tested for. But can be permitted if disclosed beforehand with a legit issue, something Mayweather has not done.
                Last edited by CLUE; 01-20-2014, 09:06 PM.

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                • radioraheem
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by way2strong
                  what part of they allow 4:1 don't you inderstand Lamont peterson was doing well with his cheating ways probably with usada intill he signed to use vada and failed with a below 4:1
                  He failed below? You mean he failed ABOVE. If you test above 4:1, that's evidence that you could be juicing. USADA, VADA, and NSAC use 4:1. NSAC switched recently from 6:1 to 4:1.

                  Lamont Peterson didn't use USADA, and never has as a professional. He's only used VADA, and only once. There's only a few fighters that have used both USADA and VADA as professionals. Amir Khan, Shane Mosley, Canelo Alvarez, and I think that might be it off the top of my head.

                  http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...nte-assertions

                  USADA reached out to NYFightBlog to dispute the Conte claims about when it uses the CIR test. I should have reached out to USADA earlier. **USADA furnished a statement to this writer dis*****g much of what Conte said in the blog post.

                  "CIR is a regular part of the USADA testing program for all athletes under USADA's jurisdiction, as well as a routine part of the anti-doping programs conducted by USADA in the sport of professional boxing," USADA said. "It is completely inaccurate to say that CIR testing would only be done if a T/E ratio is 4-1."
                  Last edited by radioraheem; 01-20-2014, 09:27 PM.

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                  • way2strong
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by radioraheem
                    He failed below? You mean he failed ABOVE. If you test above 4:1, that's evidence that you could be juicing. USADA, VADA, and NSAC use 4:1. NSAC switched recently from 6:1 to 4:1.

                    Lamont Peterson didn't use USADA, and never has as a professional. He's only used VADA, and only once. There's only a few fighters that have used both USADA and VADA as professionals. Amir Khan, Shane Mosley, Canelo Alvarez, and I think that might be it off the top of my head.

                    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...nte-assertions
                    I didn't understand it to much but they said he tried to keep it under the legal limit of 4:1 but just the fact that he used TRT is illegal so he wasn't no walking super human just trying to get a slight edge and failed

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by radioraheem
                      If he fights Floyd -- yes. I'm surprised people haven't realized this, but there's random drug testing for every Floyd fight since Mosley. He doesn't fight without that in place now.
                      You seem so sure. Why are you so sure?

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