Comments Thread For: Mendez, Barthelemy Await Appeal Process To Play Out

[JakeNDaBox]

The collective fates of Rances Barthelemy and Argenis Mendez, as it pertains to their title fight earlier this month, are now solely in the hands of the Minnesota Combative Sports Commission (MCSC). All parties were afforded an opportunity to have their say, with the appeal now in the hands of the commission’s executive director, Matt Schowalter.

Mendez’ team filed an appeal on January 9 seeking a reversal of the official outcome from his bout with Barthelemy on January 4 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Barthelemy was in control for the duration of the brief affair—which served as the main event for the 2014 season premiere of ESPN2 Friday Night Fights—but final combination came after the bell had sounded to end the second round of their scheduled 12-round 130 lb. title fight.

The punches after the bell put Mendez down for the second time on the night, having been dropped earlier in the round. Referee Pete Podgorski was out of position to properly break the fighters at the bell, nor were his actions in line with an official aware of the surroundings and circumstances. Rather than rule the instance an accidental foul and grant Mendez up to five minutes to recover (in addition to the one-minute rest period in between rounds), the referee ruled the fight a technical knockout.

For the moment, Barthelemy serves as the newly crowned 130 lb. titlist. However, with appeals filed to both the Minnesota commission and the International Boxing Federation (IBF), there remains a possibility the Cuban is forced to give back the belt and return to his previous role as mandatory challenger.

All parties had until Monday, January 13 to offer comment to the MCSC Executive Director, who will review the matter exclusively before reaching a verdict. [Click Here To Read More]

[racostaa]

In all fights, in most of the rounds of every fight, there are always punches thrown after the bell in the heat of the fight, but usually nobody complains because does not come in a fulminant knockout. Of course, this is the one every body is complaining and are obsessed with the rules because was the end of the fight. Here the important thing is determine is could be the normal happening of the heat of a fight or was intentional. For me was normal because Mendez didn't lower his defenses at any time. Is different is Mendez made actions prior to lower his defenses and moved to his corner and Barthelemy uses this actions to intentionally knocked him. The actions were kick, in a course of an attack and Mendez didn't do any movement disengaging the actions.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

In all fights, in most of the rounds of every fight, there are always punches thrown after the bell in the heat of the fight, but usually nobody complains because does not come in a fulminant knockout. Of course, this is the one every body is complaining and are obsessed with the rules because was the end of the fight. Here the important thing is determine is could be the normal happening of the heat of a fight or was intentional. For me was normal because Mendez didn't lower his defenses at any time. Is different is Mendez made actions prior to lower his defenses and moved to his corner and Barthelemy uses this actions to intentionally knocked him. The actions were kick, in a course of an attack and Mendez didn't do any movement disengaging the actions.

This is the VERY FIRST thing I said the night it happened.

And I agree with your whole post.


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[CubanGuyNYC]

In all fights, in most of the rounds of every fight, there are always punches thrown after the bell in the heat of the fight, but usually nobody complains because does not come in a fulminant knockout. Of course, this is the one every body is complaining and are obsessed with the rules because was the end of the fight. Here the important thing is determine is could be the normal happening of the heat of a fight or was intentional. For me was normal because Mendez didn't lower his defenses at any time. Is different is Mendez made actions prior to lower his defenses and moved to his corner and Barthelemy uses this actions to intentionally knocked him. The actions were kick, in a course of an attack and Mendez didn't do any movement disengaging the actions.

I agree with everything you're saying. I've made some of these points myself. But Barthelemy broke the rules. It sucks, 'cause Rances was kicking ass, but it is what it is. Let's see how the commission rules.

[daggum]

In all fights, in most of the rounds of every fight, there are always punches thrown after the bell in the heat of the fight, but usually nobody complains because does not come in a fulminant knockout. Of course, this is the one every body is complaining and are obsessed with the rules because was the end of the fight. Here the important thing is determine is could be the normal happening of the heat of a fight or was intentional. For me was normal because Mendez didn't lower his defenses at any time. Is different is Mendez made actions prior to lower his defenses and moved to his corner and Barthelemy uses this actions to intentionally knocked him. The actions were kick, in a course of an attack and Mendez didn't do any movement disengaging the actions.

there's no rule that says you can keep punching a guy after the bell if his hands are up.

[BostonGuy]

Barthelemy looked very much the better man that night as he outgunned and pummelled Mendez. If the knockout hadn't occurred, he most likely would have gone to won the fight. However, how many times have we seen a fighter get knocked down, get outclassed to the verge of losing the fight, only to comeback and make the fight competitive, never mind winning it? Mendez didn't get that chance because he was hit with a knockout combination after the bell rung to end the round.

The fight therefore should be ruled a N.C. Barthelemy hit him after the bell which is clearly against the rules. In was in the heat of the moment and he may not have heard the bell, but that doesn't matter. The rules state that once the bell has sounded the fighters must seize combat. There's no rule that says if a fighter doesn't hear the sound of the bell, he can still throw punches.

[BendOver]

In any a case a rematch is coming and I'll favor my Cuban from Poey, he is not the same fighter that I went to watch at the Doubletree, he is leagues ahead

[CubanGuyNYC]

Barthelemy looked very much the better man that night as he outgunned and pummelled Mendez. If the knockout hadn't occurred, he most likely would have gone to won the fight. However, how many times have we seen a fighter get knocked down, get outclassed to the verge of losing the fight, only to comeback and make the fight competitive, never mind winning it? Mendez didn't get that chance because he was hit with a knockout combination after the bell rung to end the round.

The fight therefore should be ruled a N.C. Barthelemy hit him after the bell which is clearly against the rules. In was in the heat of the moment and he may not have heard the bell, but that doesn't matter. The rules state that once the bell has sounded the fighters must seize combat. There's no rule that says if a fighter doesn't hear the sound of the bell, he can still throw punches.

Can't argue with any of this.

[CubanGuyNYC]

In any a case a rematch is coming and I'll favor my Cuban from Poey, he is not the same fighter that I went to watch at the Doubletree, he is leagues ahead

I agree. But Rances looked pretty good in the first two or three rounds versus Usmanee. Then Arash turned it on and made Barthelemy dig deep. Nonetheless, Rances looked sharper than ever versus Mendez. It's too bad about this controversy. Barthelemy looked like he was on his way to crushing Argenis beyond any question.

Whatever happens, there will be a rematch. I just hope it's a replay of the first fight...all except the controversy.

[Respect Power]

I agree with every post up till now !