Is Mayweather Justified In His Refusal To Deal With Arum For The Pacquiao Fight?

[al-Xander]

Why is he justified? People thought it's always been
about ped testing. Now it's Arum. What's next?

[BroneloCalvarez]

Lol you are asking if it's okay for Floyd to avoid fighting Pacquiao because of beef Floyd has with the promoter...do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

Details aside, the actions and excuses of both camps make the sport of boxing look like a joke. People can try to bring business or politics into it but at the end it is what it is, a sport. And the dancing aroundthe issue of these clowns makes each other look incredibly petty and childish on both sides

[mrlopez]

Hopefully neither Pac nor Mayweather bring eachother up anymore. I'm tired of this imaginary fight, the ****** promoters, the boxers and their excuses given in the past and now, the idiot fanboys, the excuses the fanboys have chided, accepted and repeat. Fact is that its never going to happen, and no matter who you blame, the end result is that its a SHAME for BOXING!

Damn i miss the 80's and the boxers who were true sportsmen and loved to fight whoever was a challenge......wheres the hot tub time machine at?!?!?!?

[GoldenGloveLove]

Better question: Do we allow a system that no other major sport has where promoters, athletes, trainers, managers, agents and TV execs and their ego fights can muddy the water of who is the best and prevent fans from finding out? And the answer is a big yes.

[Ganondorf]

Why would anyone want to do business with a lying, cheating, greedy promotor who already burnt you in the past? If I was Floyd, I wouldn't want to split Jack **** with Arum.

I am befuddled that Manny hasn't figured something different out by now. If I were a Pacquiao fan, I would be praying for him to leave TR.

[TOBYLEE1]

The proof is in the pudding. Good fighters that leave top rank do financially well after. Look how Cotto has raked in more money and opportunities.

Also TR does the same as other promoters in that want you to sign under their banner to fight their star fighter or they want to handle the whole promotion if you don't sign

[ИATAS]

The proof is in the pudding. Good fighters that leave top rank do financially well after. Look how Cotto has raked in more money and opportunities.

Also TR does the same as other promoters in that want you to sign under their banner to fight their star fighter or they want to handle the whole promotion if you don't sign

What does any of that have to do with Floyd though? Is Floyd Pacquiao's personal advisor? Lol

Of course it would be in Pacquiao's best interest to be a free agent, but again, what concern is that of Floyd? If Floyd gets his money, gets everything he wants, why should he care what Pacquiao's doin with his split of the money?

[SamuraiSam]

People claim to support Manny but instead support the man who is robbing him blind...amazing

So you're saying Floyd's refusal to deal with Arum is because he's robbing Manny? Your statement is similar to what GRUSTLER wrote in comment#276 on the "Pacquiao Turns His Back On Mayweather Fight, For Now" thread.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...624513&page=28

Instead of wasting time restating the argument, I'll copy/paste the quote & my rebuttal:

Quote:
Originally Posted by GRUSTLER
By the logic of Pacquiao's fans. Floyd has to show he wants the fight but can't make demands because Manny is too sensitive and ****** to negotiate and talk for himself. Arum is the one robbing him but Mayweather is the enemy for trying to get him some money without Arum.

Rebuttal:
Do you honestly believe those words you're putting in Floyd's mouth? Can you provide a link to an article or video of Floyd expressing such humanitarian, altruistic sentiment in wanting to save Manny from Arum to maximize Manny's paycheck? You really think Floyd is "trying to get him some money without Arum"? You're starting to exhibit faulty Floydiot logic yourself.

As I vaguely remember some poster saying, Floyd's ex-BFF FiftyCent said that not only is Floyd obsessed with the money he's making but he's so worried about how much money other people are making (or something to that effect). What does that tell you?

There are numerous articles, videos, tweets and other social media all over the internet documenting Floyd's hatred and contempt for this one yellow midget he doesn't want to fight. Most recently Floyd called Pac a dog desperate to be thrown a bone. Is that kind of hatred and contempt harmonious & compatible with humanitarian/altruistic feelings for Manny's financial welfare? Is that what your logic leads you to conclude? If so, it's faulty and as delusional as the rest of the Floydiots.

Logic would indicate that, with Floyd's outright hatred and contempt for the yellow midget, he would rejoice and gloat about Manny making "slave wages" after paying off Arum his master's fee. Wouldn't it? Wouldn't it? It's the only common sense misanthropic behavior and attitude for Floyd to assume. He should be gleeful that Arum is robbing Manny. But noooooOOOOOOoooooo, he won't negotiate with Arum in Manny's corner because he wants to save Manny from being robbed. Floydiot logic.

Why is Floyd so concerned about where Manny's money goes? What business is it of his? It's prize fighting. As long as he gets his larger percentage of the prize, why should he be so concerned how Manny splits his smaller (but equitable, not insulting) share of the prize? That logic can't be denied. Only a Floydiot's willful denial of such TRUTH would make it illogical to their delusional mind. And it proves that using Arum as the newest demand/excuse is just the latest roadblock and smokescreen to pretend he wants to negotiate a fight, the latest change-up from previously saying, "Take the test and we have a fight."

You say that, "Floyd has to show he wants the fight but can't make demands..." ****, he has been making demands. Look at that last sentence in that last paragraph. Or are you referring to other demands like money split? That's another ploy that can be and was used by Floyd to smokescreen and masquerade his desire for a fight. Only a Floydiot would consider a lowball flat fee out of a record breaking monetary windfall to be acceptable. But Manny wasn't that ******...and I'm sure Floyd knew it was insultingly lowball and he counted on Manny saying NO...then Floyd can triumphantly say, "I made an offer but Manny rejected the fight."

Just watch...when Manny is free from Arum, Floyd will again offer lowball insulting "slave wages" for Pac, and he'll brag that Manny again said NO.

So let's see how your logic counters in rebuttal to what I've said.
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Comment#392

Once again, my reply got BRONER'ed, the Floydiot willfully denying the truth (or unable to express a logical rebuttal). I bet you pull the BRONER on me too since you only post sound bites parroting what "Floyd said..."

Personally, I don't care if Arum robs Manny blind. I just want to see the fight get signed...no roadblocks or excuses. If Manny's cultural identity calls for that kind of dedication & loyalty to the benefactor who got him to where he is today, that's on him. Why does it matter to Floyd?

[devildg]

Hell no!!!

[Tyler_Durden]

Floyd says that boxing is a business and calls himself "Money" yet he refuses to do business with someone to create the biggest money fight possible. He's a hypocrite and a coward.