Top 5 best fighters you ever seen at their peak: hardest to beat at prime?

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  • StarshipTrooper
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    #21
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
    What are your top 5 fighters?.. You disparage others lists but don't post on of your own.. Would love to know..

    And you mentioned Duran won the bigger fight between him n Srl, but Duran lost in his prime so he gets discarded
    DeJesus I. No shame in that given that DeJesus is a top-20 Lightweight and Duran subsequently knocked him out twice. Fight top-flight opponents and you're going to take a loss here and there.

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    • Daddy T
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      #22
      Jones Jnr and Tyson really stand out for me but maybe cause i was a kid and thought both were unbeatable

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      • Mr. Philadel
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        #23
        Roy.....never seen anyone else close to being unbeatable!!...Hop is my main man and Floyd has my utmost when it comes to boxing abilities....but they couldn't match what Roy had in his prime imo....prime Roy is the best I've ever seen!!

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        • ModernTalking
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          #24
          Floyd Mayweather: At his best duck, nobody can beat him because they wouldn't even get that chance.

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          • Prince Mongo
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            #25
            In my lifetime

            Ray Leonard at WW he gets the edge of Floyd Mayweather IMO but Floyd is great.

            Roberto Duran at lightweight.

            Roy Jones when he was at his best.

            Rigondeaux he must be past prime but no one can beat him.

            Marvin Hagler at MW

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            • ShamrockXpress
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              #26
              This discussion is what makes boxing so compelling in my eyes. If fighters truly test themselves then no one fighter is unbeatable. Fighters can have every attribute, but on the night their 'inferior' opposition can defy the odds.

              In recent memory, Lennox Lewis looked invulnerable. A motivated, in-shape Rahman caught a distracted Lewis and proved having the edge in every department doesn't remove the human element. The intangibles such as training camp, personal relationships or injuries/illness are what make this sport compelling. Roy jones jr, felix Trinidad (going into the Hopkins fight), Kelly pavlik (going into the Hopkins fight), these were fighters were I couldn't see a loss on the horizon untill it happened. I never would have thought Dariusz michalczewski would have lost to Gonzalez but anything can happen with any fighter on any given night.

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              • LacedUp
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                #27
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                It's at their peak and losing doesn't matter that much.. Srr, ali, Louis all lost in their primes....
                I guess it's debatable whether or not they actually lost in their primes. I think SRR is the only obvious one who did, but fighting every other weak against the best - You'll lose to someone eventually.

                I don't think his 127-1-2 record will ever be rivaled in the sport of boxing.

                Joe Louis really came into his own after he won the championship and I don't think anyone would claim Ali was in his prime vs Frazier.

                But I understand what you mean.

                If I had to pick one, I'd say Ali around '65-'66 - He was the perfect fighter. Never seen anything like it. SRR would be a close second, but most of the fights he had in his true prime were never aired - so it's hard to judge.

                Others for me include RJJ, SRL, Whitaker, Duran, Andre Ward (yes I said it), Tyson and a couple of others.

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                • New England
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                  #28
                  odd question. robinson just isn't that well filmed during his prime. stuff is popping up slowly, but there aren't any complete fights from the heart of the 40's of which i am aware.
                  he's well filmed at middleweight, but that's after a very long career and at a higher weight. he's still one of the best MW of all time, incidentally.


                  147 lb robinson is less flawed than ali was. ali was a HW, and though he had a great chin, he could be tagged and hurt because of the size of his opponents. ali wasn't a great HW puncher either. he had power, but so does every other athletic 200lb + guy.



                  my vote goes for robinson. he's history's least flawed fighter. he had all time great power in both hands, speed, and one of the best chins ever. he was aggressive and could be hit, but he made up for it with his chin, meanness, and power.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mr. Philadel
                    Roy.....never seen anyone else close to being unbeatable!!...Hop is my main man and Floyd has my utmost when it comes to boxing abilities....but they couldn't match what Roy had in his prime imo....prime Roy is the best I've ever seen!!
                    I will only speak on fighters whose prime I actually saw.

                    I'm not his biggest fan but you almost have to go with roy. Floyd and Ricardo Lopez are next. But roy always did seem too much for anyone at or around his weight.

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                    • bojangles1987
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                      #30
                      Roy and Ali are definitely the best of the fighters I've seen. Leonard and Whitaker would probably be after that.

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