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  • turnedup
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    #161
    Originally posted by carloscruz10009
    You don't think PAC could have demanded a Floyd fight... And nothing else... Didn't Mike Tyson do that?
    It takes two sides to make a fight...you got one side that's about the money and you have one side that's all about the power. Richard came into boxing richer than anyone in the sport..his lure was power. This is the vacuum that has emerged in GBP..Oscar went from the face of GBP to virtually a partner that makes appearances when needed. Schaeffer runs that company..Schaeffer compared himself to Arum in 2008 and Arum publicly scoffed at the notion and that's where the whole beef began. If you actually go through the archives..Arum hasn't said anything negative about Schaeffer in 7 years now..Schaeffer has expressed his dislike of Arum every chance he gets. Manny could demand all he wants and Arum could try to negotiate all he wants..it's not going to make a difference..when the man who signs the checks doesn't want the fighter he reps to fight you he ain't gonna guarantee the money.

    Originally posted by hitking
    I don't think neither on of them scared of each other like I been saying. But Manny has no marketability once Floyd kicks his ass, and Arum has been knowing this. This garbage is nothing but an olive branch from Arum to Pac to re-sign. If this fight happens, expect Pac to sign a new extension with Arum. To be real, if Manny REALLY wanted Floyd. Why not ask Arum to take the step aside fee. He may have privately and Arum refused. Which is a possibility because Pac has hinted that he may not sign an extension in efforts to make a Foyd fight. But I think there's a better chance that Bob got in his ear and said "you don't need this in your life right now." And that it would be a lot more profitable for him to allow Bob to line up some cupcakes for money. Cause as long as Pac has the "we hate Floyd" folks on his side and believing, he's gonna make money.
    Dude you are wrong...Marquez proved you and me wrong. Manny Pacquaio was asleep drooling on a canvas where people thought he was dead. People swore Pacqauio was done for..Pacquaio isn't the type of fighter that falls out of favor because of a loss because it's not a record that makes him a star it's his talents and his style of fighting that made him a star. As long as Pacquaio is willing to step into a ring and put it all on the line with his barrage of punches he'll still be a draw. Arum is a snake but he's an old school snake, and old school snakes only care about one thing."How much money am I getting out of this". Pacquaio losing to Floyd is just another loss on a career with several losses..only thing them fighting accomplishes for either man is that it ends the discussion on who would win. If Arum was scared about Manny taking a loss he would've killed any more Pacquaio vs Marquez fights after the 3rd fight...the 4th fight happening and it's result just speak loudly that arum is all about the money..the fact he wanted and wants a 5th fight means it's definitely about the money. No other promoter in history would've been clamoring for another fight right away versus a guy who nearly killed your boxer especially if he's trying to protect him from anything.

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    • carloscruz10009
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      #162
      Originally posted by mrlopez
      weak fight, if it does happen, it better be at 140. still aint buiying it tho. damn...no pac or floyd fights for me. and f'k ginger, his fight is a joke on ppv
      Not a fan of El Perro???? Lmao... Def not a PPV.. love how Schaeffer trying to sell it.... "They both Mexican & really isn't like each other".... Yea okay

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        #163
        This is CLASSIC matchmaking. Throw out a really ****ty name so when a lightly better name comes out people can appreciate it. Floyd did that with The Ghost.

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        • carloscruz10009
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          #164
          [QUOTE=turnedup;14131558]It takes two sides to make a fight...you got one side that's about the money and you have one side that's all about the power. Richard came into boxing richer than anyone in the sport..his lure was power. This is the vacuum that has emerged in GBP..Oscar went from the face of GBP to virtually a partner that makes appearances when needed. Schaeffer runs that company..Schaeffer compared himself to Arum in 2008 and Arum publicly scoffed at the notion and that's where the whole beef began. If you actually go through the archives..Arum hasn't said anything negative about Schaeffer in 7 years now..Schaeffer has expressed his dislike of Arum every chance he gets. Manny could demand all he wants and Arum could try to negotiate all he wants..it's not going to make a difference..when the man who signs the checks doesn't want the fighter he reps to fight you he ain't gonna guarantee the money.



          I would agree but I don't.. All of those issues are non-existent when Pacquiao didn't want to take the test in the first round of negotiations... Didn't matter who did or didn't like each other

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            #165
            Originally posted by SkillspayBills
            This is CLASSIC matchmaking. Throw out a really ****ty name so when a lightly better name comes out people can appreciate it. Floyd did that with The Ghost.
            Is that really necessary before a Bradley fight? Most people are fine with a Bradley fight.

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            • DannYankee
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              #166
              Haha lets see those i only want exciting fight *****es talk now. Talk about eclipsing any other possible "exciting fights" out there. Gamboa in 2.

              Lol jk this would be fireworks too fast for our eyes to see til Gamboa gets knocked out doe.

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              • carloscruz10009
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                #167
                Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                This is CLASSIC matchmaking. Throw out a really ****ty name so when a lightly better name comes out people can appreciate it. Floyd did that with The Ghost.
                Where has Guerrero gone? He's a p----- as well... Why did he turn down Thurman? Miadana? Broner ?

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                • carloscruz10009
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by turnedup
                  It takes two sides to make a fight...you got one side that's about the money and you have one side that's all about the power. Richard came into boxing richer than anyone in the sport..his lure was power. This is the vacuum that has emerged in GBP..Oscar went from the face of GBP to virtually a partner that makes appearances when needed. Schaeffer runs that company..Schaeffer compared himself to Arum in 2008 and Arum publicly scoffed at the notion and that's where the whole beef began. If you actually go through the archives..Arum hasn't said anything negative about Schaeffer in 7 years now..Schaeffer has expressed his dislike of Arum every chance he gets. Manny could demand all he wants and Arum could try to negotiate all he wants..it's not going to make a difference..when the man who signs the checks doesn't want the fighter he reps to fight you he ain't gonna guarantee the money.



                  Dude you are wrong...Marquez proved you and me wrong. Manny Pacquaio was asleep drooling on a canvas where people thought he was dead. People swore Pacqauio was done for..Pacquaio isn't the type of fighter that falls out of favor because of a loss because it's not a record that makes him a star it's his talents and his style of fighting that made him a star. As long as Pacquaio is willing to step into a ring and put it all on the line with his barrage of punches he'll still be a draw. Arum is a snake but he's an old school snake, and old school snakes only care about one thing."How much money am I getting out of this". Pacquaio losing to Floyd is just another loss on a career with several losses..only thing them fighting accomplishes for either man is that it ends the discussion on who would win. If Arum was scared about Manny taking a loss he would've killed any more Pacquaio vs Marquez fights after the 3rd fight...the 4th fight happening and it's result just speak loudly that arum is all about the money..the fact he wanted and wants a 5th fight means it's definitely about the money. No other promoter in history would've been clamoring for another fight right away versus a guy who nearly killed your boxer especially if he's trying to protect him from anything.

                  Hitking.. Your wrong... LMAO... ROACH don't care either.. We want exciting fights, even if pacquiao gets knocked out

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                  • carloscruz10009
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    Is that really necessary before a Bradley fight? Most people are fine with a Bradley fight.
                    I agree... Bradley is a good fight.. Who you like in that fight?

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                    • DannYankee
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                      #170
                      Pacquiao competing with Mayweather in all levels ."Oh you got khan?" "I raise you a Gamboa" If those matches happen i call it a draw lol.

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