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  • ironmt
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    #401
    Originally posted by Slip Stream
    This is true, a fair reading would not reveal what they're desperately looking for, evidence of Floyd verbally saying what they believe. But this is tricky because they believed Floyd was a "coward" before he allegedly uttered those words, so their job after that is to find anything that corroborates their unreasoning su****ions.

    Its bizarre people spend so much time trying to ridicule someone that is really bringing interest to the sport. Well so is Manny, but for different reasons of course like doping, tax liens, and devastating KOs. But the Pacquiao obsessed shouldn't fret too much, their idol has a documentary coming out, so at least that's something?

    Manny's still "fighter of the decade," whatever that means....
    What Is bizarre Is the amount of time you spend on this forum contributing nothing but hate filled rants against a boxer and It's fans that you obviously despise. Why Is It that you have no problem calling Pacquiao out on the doping allegations and his tax problems and all the other rhetoric you babble on about, on a daily basis, yet you fail to criticize Mayweather for his strange hobbies, such as beating his girlfriend Josie Harris while two of their children watched, or the two separate domestic disputes with Melissa Brim. It seems your hero Isn't as choosy at deciding his next female victim, as he Is at deciding his next fight In the ring.

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    • Slip Stream
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      #402
      Originally posted by ironmt
      What Is bizarre Is the amount of time you spend on this forum contributing nothing but hate filled rants against a boxer and It's fans that you obviously despise. Why Is It that you have no problem calling Pacquiao out on the doping allegations and his tax problems and all the other rhetoric you babble on about, on a daily basis, yet you fail to criticize Mayweather for his strange hobbies, such as beating his girlfriend Josie Harris while two of their children watched, or the two separate domestic disputes with Melissa Brim. It seems your hero Isn't as choosy at deciding his next female victim, as he Is at deciding his next fight In the ring.
      The amount of animus you say I contribute is what I feel as an African American coming to the NSB at times. I feel like **** sometimes coming here and reading all of the Mayweather hate, and that feeling has informed how I respond these days. It isn't how I started here. I started here begging for sanity and reason but as time went on I realized no one was listening or cared to, and there are lots of reasons for this. (Trust me, I don't want to defend Floyd as much as I do.)

      You must familiarize yourself with my post history (don't trouble yourself) because I call out Floyd for what he was, for being a domestic abuser, a ****ing coward to dare raise his hand to a female. So in my real life I'm a "case manager," I work with abused women, homeless people and splintered families. I have some understanding about what violence against women and children does. This is why I separate Floyd the boxer I so admire, and Floyd the man I utterly despise. I know I'd be the better man to understand Floyd's life in context, but I can't forgive that and I never will.

      I admire the boxer and businessman in Floyd but he's no role model in my humble estimation. Any man that lays his hands on a woman is worthy of prison time and public ridicule.

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      • ironmt
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        #403
        Originally posted by Slip Stream
        The amount of animus you say I contribute is what I feel as an African American coming to the NSB at times. I feel like **** sometimes coming here and reading all of the Mayweather hate, and that feeling has informed how I respond these days. It isn't how I started here. I started here begging for sanity and reason but as time went on I realized no one was listening or cared to, and there are lots of reasons for this. (Trust me, I don't want to defend Floyd as much as I do.)

        You must familiarize yourself with my post history (don't trouble yourself) because I call out Floyd for what he was, for being a domestic abuser, a ****ing coward to dare raise his hand to a female. So in my real life I'm a "case manager," I work with abused women, homeless people and splintered families. I have some understanding about what violence against women and children does. This is why I separate Floyd the boxer I so admire, and Floyd the man I utterly despise. I know I'd be the better man to understand Floyd's life in context, but I can't forgive that and I never will.

        I admire the boxer and businessman in Floyd but he's no role model in my humble estimation. Any man that lays his hands on a woman is worthy of prison time and public ridicule.
        That was a respectable response. Is there a particular reason for the dislike for Pacquiao or does It have more to do with certain Pacquiao fans that spend the majority of there time on this board belittling Floyd.

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        • FightingWords
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          #404
          Originally posted by ironmt
          What Is bizarre Is the amount of time you spend on this forum contributing nothing but hate filled rants against a boxer and It's fans that you obviously despise. Why Is It that you have no problem calling Pacquiao out on the doping allegations and his tax problems and all the other rhetoric you babble on about, on a daily basis, yet you fail to criticize Mayweather for his strange hobbies, such as beating his girlfriend Josie Harris while two of their children watched, or the two separate domestic disputes with Melissa Brim. It seems your hero Isn't as choosy at deciding his next female victim, as he Is at deciding his next fight In the ring.
          So it's bad to hate on Manny but it's ok to hate Mayweather? Oh the hipocracy.. But this is NSB so..

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          • Slip Stream
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            #405
            Originally posted by ironmt
            That was a respectable response. Is there a particular reason for the dislike for Pacquiao or does It have more to do with certain Pacquiao fans that spend the majority of there time on this board belittling Floyd.
            I don't dislike Manny. Any man that climbs into the ring and risks all and sometimes for so little earns my respect outright. I respect Manny the warrior, the man that laces up his gloves and lets his fists go like mother****ing lighting, yeah I do respect that because I want to see a good fight too.

            What I don't respect is Manny's promoter, how Manny's chosen to stick with a crook, how he seems to passively acknowledge the responsibilities of his life. For some reason this really pisses me off bro. I guess its because I've worked with so many men that refuse to accept responsibility for their lives or choices they make or can make. I see a man that had unlimited potential flush it down the toilet and for what? That really pisses me off and when people defend that it pisses me off even more.

            As to the fans here, maybe its a general unease I feel when I come here at times. I hear insult after insult launched against Floyd without regard to fact or situation and it makes me want to scream. How can boxing fans hate a guy so much? I just don't get this.

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            • FightingWords
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              #406
              Originally posted by Slip Stream
              I don't dislike Manny. Any man that climbs into the ring and risks all and sometimes for so little earns my respect outright. I respect Manny the warrior, the man that laces up his gloves and lets his fists go like mother****ing lighting, yeah I do respect that because I want to see a good fight too.

              What I don't respect is Manny's promoter, how Manny's chosen to stick with a crook, how he seems to passively acknowledge the responsibilities of his life. For some reason this really pisses me off bro. I guess its because I've worked with so many men that refuse to accept responsibility for their lives or choices they make or can make. I see a man that had unlimited potential flush it down the toilet and for what? That really pisses me off and when people defend that it pisses me off even more.

              As to the fans here, maybe its a general unease I feel when I come here at times. I hear insult after insult launched against Floyd without regard to fact or situation and it makes me want to scream. How can boxing fans hate a guy so much? I just don't get this.
              Oh I think I have an idea... Great post by the way..

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              • ADP02
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                #407
                Originally posted by Slip Stream
                Poor dullard, a statement remarkably free of context. What is Mayweather saying? Is he saying he's a coward or is he saying that if he's thought of as a coward, then he's a rich coward? See, Pac's brain dead army grasp onto words and random phrases while the truth and subtlety of context eludes them.
                Hey bud, you said that he never said "I'm a rich coward" ..... but Floyd has said those exact words and also different variations of it.
                EXAMPLE:
                1) "I hope they keep giving me those cherry picked fights and I keep winning and making easy money"
                2) "So and so can say what he wants but I have earned the right to carefully select whoever I want to fight."
                3) "Health comes first"


                With Floyd you don't even have to read between the lines. Floyd tells you Floyd fans but you block your ears and pretend and pretend that Floyd never says those lines .... then say "oh, it's all out of context"

                How many excuses does it take a Floyd fan to hear from Floyd until they get that Floyd was "too concerned" to lose his precious "0" so he stayed away from risky fights?

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                • ironmt
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                  #408
                  Originally posted by Slip Stream
                  I don't dislike Manny. Any man that climbs into the ring and risks all and sometimes for so little earns my respect outright. I respect Manny the warrior, the man that laces up his gloves and lets his fists go like mother****ing lighting, yeah I do respect that because I want to see a good fight too.

                  What I don't respect is Manny's promoter, how Manny's chosen to stick with a crook, how he seems to passively acknowledge the responsibilities of his life. For some reason this really pisses me off bro. I guess its because I've worked with so many men that refuse to accept responsibility for their lives or choices they make or can make. I see a man that had unlimited potential flush it down the toilet and for what? That really pisses me off and when people defend that it pisses me off even more.

                  As to the fans here, maybe its a general unease I feel when I come here at times. I hear insult after insult launched against Floyd without regard to fact or situation and it makes me want to scream. How can boxing fans hate a guy so much? I just don't get this.
                  Thanks for responding and helping me to understand where you are coming from. You made some very valid points. As far as hating Floyd, he makes It easy for the majority and that's why he Is reaping the rewards he Is receiving.

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                  • Slip Stream
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                    #409
                    Originally posted by ADP02
                    Hey bud, you said that he never said "I'm a rich coward" ..... but Floyd has said those exact words and also different variations of it.
                    EXAMPLE:
                    1) "I hope they keep giving me those cherry picked fights and I keep winning and making easy money"
                    2) "So and so can say what he wants but I have earned the right to carefully select whoever I want to fight."
                    3) "Health comes first"


                    With Floyd you don't even have to read between the lines. Floyd tells you Floyd fans but you block your ears and pretend and pretend that Floyd never says those lines .... then say "oh, it's all out of context"

                    How many excuses does it take a Floyd fan to hear from Floyd until they get that Floyd was "too concerned" to lose his precious "0" so he stayed away from risky fights?
                    I just want to see a good fight dude.

                    Originally posted by ironmt
                    Thanks for responding and helping me to understand where you are coming from. You made some very valid points. As far as hating Floyd, he makes It easy for the majority and that's why he Is reaping the rewards he Is receiving.
                    You're welcome bro, but to continue, does Floyd make it easy or are people looking for someone to hate and an African American is the perfect vessel? A black that's outspoken and in some ways uncompromising? Is Floyd perfect to hate because he's black? I struggle with this at times here at NSB, I do indeed.

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                    • jwheels9876
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                      #410
                      Originally posted by FightingWords
                      Oh I think I have an idea... Great post by the way..
                      Maybe it's because he is a POS human being who talks out of his ass? Not everything in this world has to do with the color of someone's skin.

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