Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Turns His Back on Mayweather Fight, For Now

[GRUSTLER]

Idiot! Floyd said he will never deal with Arum EVER! Your pea size brain I don't think can figure that out.

All Manny has to do is get from under Arum's thumb and the fight is made. Arum had Mosley and Marquez do it to fight Manny. Pacquiao fans are sissies. Floyd tries to make the fight then he is ducking? Manny doesn't want to fight and he wants to fight? Floyd left Arum to make the fight with Oscar why can't Manny if he really wants it?

[GRUSTLER]

Pac has Nike, Hennessy, HP, and many many more vs Floyd Lame Lotto Soda.
Pac is an 8 divisons champ and 4 lineal champ vs Floyd weight cheater, sucker puncher and weight drainer.
Pac is beloved congressman in his country vs Floyd prison award for beating the mother of his children in fron of them. Then threatened his own children he will kill them just because they tried to stop him beating their own mother.
Yeah Floyd is equal to Pacquiao.

Manny Pacquiao is BROKE!

[GRUSTLER]

Has any Manny Pacquiao fan EVER ask themselves. Why on Earth would a fighter of Manny Pacquiao's caliber turn down random blood testing regardless of if there were no cut offs? Who does this and then goes to fight a guy who just lost to a guy you already beat?

[leon30001]

I love the way my posts stings Pacquiao fans.

I think they just "sting" people with a modicum of intellect, because you talk unadulterated rubbish, constantly.

[jqSide]

Has any Manny Pacquiao fan EVER ask themselves. Why on Earth would a fighter of Manny Pacquiao's caliber turn down random blood testing regardless of if there were no cut offs? Who does this and then goes to fight a guy who just lost to a guy you already beat?

You're too caught up in what Pac fans say. Think about what unbiased people felt about this fight. Guys like Mike Tyson, Holmes, Foreman, RJ, SRL, Hagler, etc. They're not blaming Pac, they're blaming Floyd.

Negotiations can happen any number of times. Floyd can make it happen anytime if he wanted the fight. You're making it sound like Floyd is a seven year old child.

[BattlingNelson]

All Manny has to do is get from under Arum's thumb and the fight is made. Arum had Mosley and Marquez do it to fight Manny. Pacquiao fans are sissies. Floyd tries to make the fight then he is ducking? Manny doesn't want to fight and he wants to fight? Floyd left Arum to make the fight with Oscar why can't Manny if he really wants it?

So Floyd is trying to make the fight by continously putting forth demands that Pac has to comply with?

Can't you see the irony?

[GRUSTLER]

We are gonna have to disagree. Pac fought the lions coming up the ranks, Ledwaba sp, Barrera , Marquez , Morales the GREAT and you distorted the truth about Pacs fights. Pac has won 4 lineal titles , has done more in boxing than any fighter in history and what has JR DONE?

He was WW way before Pac, and he refused to fight Margo prime and elite because he was afraid he would lose.

Jr refused to fight a prime Cotto and I could go on and on but what I expect to hear from you is

#1 NO RESPONSE

#2 Some nonsense

Jr did not rebuff the statement by Arum that JR was a coward not to fight Margo.

Jr Retired instead of fighting a prime Cotto

JR has made more demands than Hines has pickles and each time Pac agrees Jr comes with more demands.

I have said in my last posts that I hope Pac don't fight JR , and I hope it never comes off.

The WORLD knows who is the Main DUCK in boxing and its JR

These accusations of Floyd ducking Cotto and Margarito are old because it never happened. I even proved that with quotes from Arum. Manny has done absolutely squat at 147 except get KO'd by a guy who wasn't even a natural WW. When it is all said and done Floyd will be more regarded in the sport of boxing.

[GRUSTLER]

You're too caught up in what Pac fans say. Think about what unbiased people felt about this fight. Guys like Mike Tyson, Holmes, Foreman, RJ, SRL, Hagler, etc. They're not blaming Pac, they're blaming Floyd.

Negotiations can happen any number of times. Floyd can make it happen anytime if he wanted the fight. You're making it sound like Floyd is a seven year old child.

Floyd was the one who turned down the fight because of Random blood testing? Or 40million? I don't care what nobody says. I know bull$#!t when I smell it. I'm not a follower.

[GRUSTLER]

So Floyd is trying to make the fight by continously putting forth demands that Pac has to comply with?

Can't you see the irony?

Pacquiao couldn't agree to random blood testing or negotiate a better deal for himself if 40 Mil wasn't enough? What about leaving Arum? This not possible? Mosley, Marquez and Cotto did it. All of this was/is impossible to do?

[Ray*]

Some actual facts:

1st go around:

- In late 2009 after Manny defeated Cotto impressively Floyd and his team reached out to TR to negotiate a Mayweather vs Pacman fight. It was Floyd's team who reached out, not Manny's.

- In late 2009 the OST request was know to team MP.

- Floyd eventually agreed to a 50/50 split down the line, a weight of 147, gloves of 8oz, a standard ring and a $10 mil per pound penalty. This was after he was adamant it would be 60/40, and Roach running his mouth all day about how Floyd wouldn't do the fight at 147. Basically he conceded to be on even footing.

- After this occured OST suddenly became a problem, and we had comical excuses such as blood draining, bruising, USADA being corrupt etc, the list is so silly i still laugh when i remember the tard nation justifying them on NSB.

- TR and co left the negotiating table and tried to blame Mayweather by saying they offered a 14 day cut off and Floyd refused. Retired federal judge who mediated said it didn't happen this way. Clottey fight signed and sealed two weeks later.

- After this fiasco Floyd is very clear that he won't be offering the same terms on OST next go around and he will want no cut off.


2nd go around:

- TR reckons they reached out to Floyd to negotiate a fight despite never actually calling any member of his team. Absurd countdown clock appears on TR website. A great promotional tool by Arum for Manny's next fight. Again "Floyd is ducking Manny" "Floyd is scared" are the go to lines.

3rd round:

- Floyd and his team are the ones to initiate contact again. Terms are again pretty favourable, and at this point Manny has publicly in the media already said OST without a cutoff is no problem. Looks like this might be the time to make the fight.

- The lame excuses start again, as if they weren't lame enough the first time. Everything from who is administering the test, to stadiums needing to be built in Nevada, to staging the fight in Texas or Dubai with it's investors, or a cut that just won't heal and TR and team Pac turn it down again.


4th round

- Floyd calls Manny with a $40mil flat offer. Manny declines. Have no issue with this, he deserves some PPV upside, well within his right to decline it.


So where in all of this has MP or his team initiated a negotiation or signalled a willingness to actually make this fight??

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This pretty much sums it up.
More than the fans, who I expect to defend their fighter, I was disgusted with the media's and the huge pass they gave Manny for refusing OST testing and even asking for all those cut off dates.

I think Pacquiao fans will continue to forget (conveniently) that it was Manny who turned down the fights with Mayweather.

Interesting posts.