Comments Thread For: Arum: If Pacquiao Picks Ruslan, Marquez-Bradley Possible

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  • AP♠
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    #51
    More recycled matches for 2014 from Top Prank Eh?

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    • hectari
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      #52
      Originally posted by Convicted_Felon
      Manny says it's up to Arum. Arum says Manny has the final say. Which one is it? I'm confused and it's all a big run around. Double talk and talking in circles. If Manny has the final say like Arum claims then Manny should be on the mic after the fight saying who he wants to fight since he has the final say.
      If you have a brain its not hard, Arum has the final say, Pacman is just a puppet who agrees to whatever arum tells him.

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      • zuz
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        #53
        Pacquiao gotta fight Bradley otherwise being pusy.

        Originally posted by SAN D13GO VILLAN
        What was the numbers for the Marquez VS bradley fight that Arum is talking about a rematch?
        Nearly same as Pacquiao-Rios.

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        • Bronx2245
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          #54
          How many out there believe that Bradley vs. Marquez 2 is a PPV event? I don't! How many believe Bradley vs. Pacquiao 2 is a PPV event? I don't! The only PPV worthy events for TR are Pacquiao vs. Provodnikov and Bradley vs. Provodnikov 2. Pacquiao vs. Marquez 5 would be a PPV event but Marquez doesn't want it. NOt too many good options for Manny and TR. Here's a suggestion for the future, Pacquiao vs. GGG @ 152lb catchweight.

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          • hectari
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            #55
            Originally posted by chepboxingking
            Ruslan-marquez would be a great fight, but it'll never happen. Marquez wants to make history and win a welterweight title, not a nice payday. He's been a jr welterweight champ before, nothing to prove there.
            Wrong, JMM never won a title at 140, he said before he is just looking to win another belt in another division, either 140 or 147.

            It comes down to this. Arum knows JMM will never rematch Pac he already offered him millions and JMM rejected so thats dead. When JMM becomes obsessed he focuses and becomes fixated, now he is fixated on Bradley the same way he was on Pacman, he told Arum he only wants to rematch Bradley or he will retire. So in order for Arum to make money he has to get Pacman to fight Ruslan, even though Bradley wants a Pac rematch. Bradley gets screwed and is forced to rematch JMM, Arum will get paid site fees and some mexican investor money for that rematch.

            Problem here is Pacquiao again is in with a more dangerous opponent. Arum really has no clue how dangerous this Ruslan guy is? So he puts Pacman in with the more dangerous opponent thinking Ruslan is tailormade just because Roach said Pac handled him in sparring, sparring is different than a fight, Roach is another egg head too.

            I wish Pac had his own mind and said Bradley rematch or Floyd fight or no more fight, like how Cotto did to Arum.

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            • MJ406
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              #56
              ^no you're wrong. JMM actually did win a 140 lb title. He won a vacant WBO 140 lb title, and it got upgraded to full champ

              read 1st paragraph of this article ... which acknowledges JMM as a 140 title holder

              http://www.boxingscene.com/juan-manuel-marquez-refuses-vacate-wbo-crown--68704

              **there's a reason JMM is so fixated on Bradley, it's because Juan wants a Welterweight title

              I agree on the Pacman stuff, he's not his own man, letting Arum run his career like that SMH

              love or hate Mayweather, you at least have to respect that the man fights on his own terms, vs who he chooses to fight. **** fight or not

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              • umop-ap!sdn
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                #57
                Things to be considered:

                1. Marquez want's no parts of Ruslan or a Jr WW belt and he likely (naively) feels Bradley is his "easiest" option at winning a WW belt

                2. Pacman likely want's no parts of Bradley as everyone feels Pacman won the 1st fight and that will all be undone if he loses a rematch to Bradley (which he potentially could at this point).

                3. Bradley's popularity is growing and is the only undefeated fighter amongst the bunch. Arum may have recognized an opportunity and may be playing to keep Timmy happy as he's the one with the potential to be making Arum big money years down the road if his 0 stays and he keeps fighting and beating big names. Marquez and Pacman retire soon and Ruslan will never be a big $ ppv fighter or consistent Champion at the weight.

                4. Ruslan is eating raw seal everyday waiting for a decision to be made, which is hell for his next opponent whomever it is.

                All i want is Bradley vs Pacman 2. I don't care what happens when the rest of the smoke settles but that rematch is a must and sadly I don't see Pac's team pushing for it like they SHOULD be.

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                • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                  #58
                  If Pacquiao picks? Pacquiao did an interview saying he doesn't pick his opponents.


                  Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

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                  • ShoulderRoll
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                    #59
                    Pacquiao doesn't pick. It's up to his promoter Bob Arum.

                    So expect to see more recycled fights from Top Rank in 2014.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by hectari
                      Wrong, JMM never won a title at 140, he said before he is just looking to win another belt in another division, either 140 or 147.

                      It comes down to this. Arum knows JMM will never rematch Pac he already offered him millions and JMM rejected so thats dead. When JMM becomes obsessed he focuses and becomes fixated, now he is fixated on Bradley the same way he was on Pacman, he told Arum he only wants to rematch Bradley or he will retire. So in order for Arum to make money he has to get Pacman to fight Ruslan, even though Bradley wants a Pac rematch. Bradley gets screwed and is forced to rematch JMM, Arum will get paid site fees and some mexican investor money for that rematch.

                      Problem here is Pacquiao again is in with a more dangerous opponent. Arum really has no clue how dangerous this Ruslan guy is? So he puts Pacman in with the more dangerous opponent thinking Ruslan is tailormade just because Roach said Pac handled him in sparring, sparring is different than a fight, Roach is another egg head too.

                      I wish Pac had his own mind and said Bradley rematch or Floyd fight or no more fight, like how Cotto did to Arum.
                      Manny provodnikov is. The better fight. We saw manny and tim and manny won easily. Problem was it didn't sell on ppv. Ruslan comes cheap and is a fresh face. Doesn't have to sell huge to get manny a big payday. Manny can beat him and has a chance to look spectacular or he can box to a win.

                      Then when manny is back full then do the bradley fight last qtr.

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