Did u lose respect for Vitali after he quit against Byrd & avoided Haye?

[F!x]

Vitali quit against Chris Byrd who, at the age of 18 was fighting as a welterweight! Vitali did sustain an injury in that fight but take a look at Danny Williams - he won the Euro belt with a dislocated shoulder. Vitali got injured and quit like Victor Ortiz.

Vitali also avoided David Haye since September 2011. He later said he'd fight the winner of Haye vs Chisora but instead disappeared in to obscurity following Haye's technical knockout of Chisora - something Vitali was incapable of achieving when he fought Chisora. I think he knew Haye's speed was too much of a threat to him because, if you remember, in the post-fight interview of the Chisora fight, Vitali admitted that if Chisora was a faster fighter then Vitali would have been in trouble.

I used to be a big fan of Vitali and, although I'm still a fan and I'd tune in to his fights if he ever resumes his boxing career, he did lose a marginal amount of respect for some his actions during his career.

So did you lose respect for Vitali?

[Szef]

Vitali quit against Chris Byrd who, at the age of 18 was fighting as a welterweight! Vitali did sustain an injury in that fight but take a look at Danny Williams - he won the Euro belt with a dislocated shoulder. Vitali got injured and quit like Victor Ortiz.

Vitali also avoided David Haye since September 2011. He later said he'd fight the winner of Haye vs Chisora but instead disappeared in to obscurity following Haye's technical knockout of Chisora - something Vitali was incapable of achieving when he fought Chisora. I think he knew Haye's speed was too much of a threat to him because, if you remember, in the post-fight interview of the Chisora fight, Vitali admitted that if Chisora was a faster fighter then Vitali would have been in trouble.

I used to be a big fan of Vitali and, although I'm still a fan and I'd tune in to his fights if he ever resumes his boxing career, he did lose a marginal amount of respect for some his actions during his career.

So did you lose respect for Vitali?

Oh shut up you Britard.

[PainfromUkraine]

Lol....."dislocated shoulder" and torn rotator cuff is not the same thing. I forgot the exact quote but according to the doctor, had Vitali thrown another punch he would have destroyed his supraspinatus tendon and never fought again. Against Chisora, he damaged his shoulder (THIS may have been a dislocation, and he still dominated and won almost every round, one handed basically). In any case, Chisora is more of a guy that can take a sustained beating but can be KO'd by one explosive shot. Vitali does not fight this way, Haye does - however, it can be argued Haye was having a much tougher night v Chisora up to the KO point, but his style was more suited to getting Chisora out of there.

In regards to fighting Haye, I may be wrong but I don't recall promising or saying that, I recall this being said by Bernd Boente or Frank Warren at the press conference after Vitali v Chisora, saying 'Let's make Dereck v David, the winner gets Vitali'. In any case, Haye is a con who ******* out on fighting Vitali many times before he started to slow down, and according to Vitali he had the contract but Haye didn't sign. Not saying Vitali is 100% believable and would never lie, but he is for sure more trustworthy than Haye...

So to your question, NO.

[Jam Jars]

What about when it was revealed he was kicked out of the Olympics because of using steroids?

[boliodogs]

No. First off he never avoided Haye, Haye avoided him and he would have easily defeated Haye. He won every round of his fight with Byrd until he hurt his shoulder. He quit to avoid doing permanent damage to his shoulder that could ruin his future career. Considering the great career he had after the Byrd fight he made the right call. Byrd was not remotely in his class. He said the pain in his shoulder was unbearable. I think he was one of the best heavyweights in history and have nothing but respect for him.

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

- If you think Vitali had the same injury against Byrd as the one against Chisora, you're dull.

-Haye ducked Vitali three times, if you didn't know that, you're blind.

[Godsfly]

Lol....."dislocated shoulder" and torn rotator cuff is not the same thing. I forgot the exact quote but according to the doctor, had Vitali thrown another punch he would have destroyed his supraspinatus tendon and never fought again. Against Chisora, he damaged his shoulder (THIS may have been a dislocation, and he still dominated and won almost every round, one handed basically). In any case, Chisora is more of a guy that can take a sustained beating but can be KO'd by one explosive shot. Vitali does not fight this way, Haye does - however, it can be argued Haye was having a much tougher night v Chisora up to the KO point, but his style was more suited to getting Chisora out of there.

In regards to fighting Haye, I may be wrong but I don't recall promising or saying that, I recall this being said by Bernd Boente or Frank Warren at the press conference after Vitali v Chisora, saying 'Let's make Dereck v David, the winner gets Vitali'. In any case, Haye is a con who ******* out on fighting Vitali many times before he started to slow down, and according to Vitali he had the contract but Haye didn't sign. Not saying Vitali is 100% believable and would never lie, but he is for sure more trustworthy than Haye...

So to your question, NO.

please find that quote from his doctor.............didn't see it.

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

please find that quote from his doctor.............didn't see it.

I think I heard it on their movie.

[PainfromUkraine]

I think I heard it on their movie.

Yes, it was from the words of his trainer in in the Klitschko film in fact, he said that the doctor told them afterwards that had he thrown another punch, he would have destroyed his shoulder for good.

[Godsfly]

Yes, it was from the words of his trainer in in the Klitschko film in fact, he said that the doctor told them afterwards that had he thrown another punch, he would have destroyed his shoulder for good.

i find that hard to believe seeing as though theres been fighters who've went 12 15 rounds with torn rotator cups...........