fastest punch!

[Verstyle]

Ali wasn't the fastest puncher, Floyd Patterson was, in the heavyweight div. Henry Cooper who fought both, said that he could always see Ali's punches coming, but Patterson's were so fast that he could feel them but not see them. Ali's "phantom" punch was a real punch, it wasn't particularly fast, being really an short, arm-punch, thrown when Liston was moving in with his own jeft jab. Because of the position, on Liston's left side, with the camera shot from the right, it was hard to see by camera, which gave people the idea that Liston had taken a "dive" (still very possible) with NO punch thrown, and of course Ali played up to the idea of HIS "phantom" punch being Soooofast that it was invisible. However, Patterson was faster, no doubt about it.

i always tell ppl I think patterson was faster.

[-Hyperion-]

Ali wasn't the fastest puncher, Floyd Patterson was, in the heavyweight div. Henry Cooper who fought both, said that he could always see Ali's punches coming, but Patterson's were so fast that he could feel them but not see them. Ali's "phantom" punch was a real punch, it wasn't particularly fast, being really an short, arm-punch, thrown when Liston was moving in with his own jeft jab. Because of the position, on Liston's left side, with the camera shot from the right, it was hard to see by camera, which gave people the idea that Liston had taken a "dive" (still very possible) with NO punch thrown, and of course Ali played up to the idea of HIS "phantom" punch being Soooofast that it was invisible. However, Patterson was faster, no doubt about it.

good post, dont let butterfly see it...

[realheavyhands]

that becuase ali fooled with his opponests but patterson was fast as hell

[Ramamaiden]

i think valuev is the fastest....end of discussion

[Verstyle]

i think valuev is the fastest....end of discussion

agreed............

[heihaci]

how does Bruce Lee's speed compare to Ali's etc?

[SquareCircle]

oh, dear......

[heihaci]

and what about Chuck Norris?

[flem1]

Luisito Espinosa's light speed punch against Khaokor Galaxy

[MindBat]

Bruce Lee was a fan of Ali

how does Bruce Lee's speed compare to Ali's etc?

Bruce actually studied Ali's and Dempsey's films while compiling notes on the mechanics of fighting, particularly their footwork. In fact he was such a speed freak, that the majority of his training was dedicated to being as fast as humanly possible without wasting too much energy. He took it to another level.

So, Bruce was a huge fan of boxing. He considered boxing skills to be ideal
when fighting since, to him, boxing applied a much more efficient use of the hands than other fighting arts.

I think Lee was faster than Ali, since he was also always in top condition. If you watch his films, there weren't any camera tricks used.

In fact, he actually had to slow down his moves for the camera because his strikes would appear only as a blur on the screen.