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  • #11
    Pac wasnt putting anywhere NEAR the amount of "mustard" on his punches that Garcia did with that left hook. The no-looker with EVERYTHING behind it would have stopped damn near anyone, chin or not that was a brutal shot. Pac stung Rios with speed the whole fight you get the feeling Pac had no interest on stopping him. Pac didnt fight to destroy. Alvarado buzzed Rios more. Contrary to popular belief Pac is nowhere near the hardest puncher at 147. :/... Likely not even at 140. P4p I'd say Lucas and Garcia have more one shot pop than Pac. Pac just combines speed and accumulation with his good power but hes no kovalev.

    Khan still loses the Garcia fight that punch was too big, not sure anyone stays up from it. Kahn is so ****** he needed a different brain not chin. Even Rios wouldnt get tagged by that one lol.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
      Which Rios now cause Antillon stunned him, Acosta hurt him, Alvarado hurt him multiple times, that recklessness of Khan is always gonna get him in trouble. His defense is horrible, even with a Rios-like chin he wouldn't have gone far in the sport, he'd be more prone to getting hurt as his career progresses. As for the bold, doesn't have to be that punch specifically but eventually Garcia would have stopped him, that much is inevitable.
      Big difference between being stunned/hurt and being knocked silly doing the chicken dance and never recovering.

      The Garcia punch wasnt even that good a shot. His eyes were closed and it landed mostly on the neck. 80% of fighters don't go down to that punch.

      And by Rios I mean a monster chin, that was the first name I came up with. Use JCC or Hagler if you want.

      The point is Khan basically only has speed and reach, but that's still hard to deal with.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
        Pac wasnt putting anywhere NEAR the amount of "mustard" on his punches that Garcia did with that left hook. The no-looker with EVERYTHING behind it would have stopped damn near anyone, chin or not that was a brutal shot. Pac stung Rios with speed the whole fight you get the feeling Pac had no interest on stopping him. Pac didnt fight to destroy. Alvarado buzzed Rios more. Contrary to popular belief Pac is nowhere near the hardest puncher at 147. :/... Likely not even at 140. P4p I'd say Lucas and Garcia have more one shot pop than Pac. Pac just combines speed and accumulation with his good power but hes no kovalev.

        Khan still loses the Garcia fight that punch was too big, not sure anyone stays up from it. Kahn is so ****** he needed a different brain not chin. Even Rios wouldnt get tagged by that one lol.
        Somehow it's a coincidence that Carlos Molina repeatedly caught Khan with the same punch, luckily for Khan Molina is feather fisted and it's another coincidence that Julio Diaz hurt Khan multiple times with the counter left hook even dropping him. That's my issue, people still think it's all down to his chin, it's a lot more than that.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Furn View Post
          Big difference between being stunned/hurt and being knocked silly doing the chicken dance and never recovering.

          The Garcia punch wasnt even that good a shot. His eyes were closed and it landed mostly on the neck. 80% of fighters don't go down to that punch.

          And by Rios I mean a monster chin, that was the first name I came up with. Use JCC or Hagler if you want.

          The point is Khan basically only has speed and reach, but that's still hard to deal with.
          Khan puts himself in the kind of situations where a chin wouldn't matter much, it's the punches you don't see coming that do the most damage and Khan specializes in putting himself in that situation. Khan's reach isn't worth noting when he's known to throw 5-6 punch combinations and lunge in off balance.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
            Khan puts himself in the kind of situations where a chin wouldn't matter much, it's the punches you don't see coming that do the most damage and Khan specializes in putting himself in that situation. Khan's reach isn't worth noting when he's known to throw 5-6 punch combinations and lunge in off balance.
            Agreed, his defence is average at best, his balance isnt great and his chin is ordinary. So how is this guy effectively 28-2 having beaten some pretty darn good fighters ?

            you can't have the worst chin in boxing and be the most hittable guy ever and have only lost legitimately twice in almost ten years. You have to have something going for you.
            Last edited by Furn; 01-03-2014, 05:50 AM.

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            • #16
              Why do people act like Khan wasn't robbed in the Peterson fight?

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              • #17
                What if what if what if what if what if? What if Tyson decided to grow up before he got knocked out, what if Roy Jones actually learned to box instead of relying almost exclusively on speed, what if Rid**** Bowe discovered Jenny Craig, what if Margarito didn't rely on cheating to win big fights, what if James Toney understood working out is all part of training, what if Tommy Morrison weathered all those shots by Ray Mercer, what if Roberto Duran didn't quit on his stool, what if George Foreman didn't rely almost solely on his power to win, what if Meldrick Taylor's corner had Chavez's wraps properly checked before the fight, what if Tyson would have kissed Holyfield instead of biting his ear off?

                What ifs are only good in situations that have no hope of being real, the fact is Khan has no chin as is evidenced by his KO losses. Khan is a bum, plain and simple and having an imaginary undefeated record does nothing to enhance the ****ty taste of a potential Mayweather-Khan matchup.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Furn View Post
                  He'd be undefeated and most likely a 3 weight champion.

                  Despite all his shortcomings his speed and his size make him a nightmare to win rounds against.

                  Other than superman roided up Peterson, who has won rounds against Khan without having him seriously hurt and trying to survive ?
                  If only traffic cops gave out cotton candy instead of tickets :/

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                  • #19
                    that's what's funny about the Floyd fight
                    if Khan had a chin, he'd have something of a chance
                    but the guy has poor defense, and 1 factor supports the other
                    with both no chin and no defense, Khan's vulnerable to anybody really

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
                      If Khan had a Rios-like chin, Garcia would have still stopped him, Maidana still would have had him seriously hurt and Peterson would have still beat him considering he took Peterson's punches well. Khan sucks, it's that simple.

                      lol, you are extreme hater.

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