Why does Martinez have to be less than 100% for Cotto to win?

[The Problem Child]

Cotto loses most of his biggest fights.


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Thing is, Martinez is not as good as some believe he is. What are his best wins? A victory over Pavlik who was struggling with alcohol addiction? Over weeded up version of Chavez Jr that as soon as he let his hands go battered Sergio around the ring like a ragdoll? Or was it against PWill who while good was as vulnerable a fighter as you could find and struggled against Ishida. In fact, Chavez Jr beats Martinez in a rematch if he lets his hands go from the opening bell.

Cotto's resume and opposition are far better. Cotto will hurt Martinez and beat him via UD. Whether he is 500% percent or a 100%.

[sslg99]

Trout demonstrated cotto's weaknesses and martinez can exploit the hell out of it

[RA-Box]

i think one aspect that's being ignored, is serg's ring rust. that could play more of a factor. sergio will have 1+ year off, he will healed up and ready to go. ring rust + father time may play more of a factor here, folks.

I agree with you. Cotto's best chance is to pressure him real fast from the get go. Never let the old man get comfortable. PWill was trying this in their second fight and had some success. Difference was that PWill was fighting the supreme beast version of Martinez. Cotto luckily, will not have to.

[Mr Randy Watson]

also cotto is left hook crazy and thats not good against a south paw.

Left hook and straight right are great against south paws

[El Angel]

No offense meant to Cotto fans, but he's out of his depth here. He is demonstrating great bravery even taking on a damaged Martinez.

Cotto is one fight removed from losing to Trout. A southpaw with just above average movement and workrate. Well now he's challenging Martinez, a southpaw who was just one fight removed from displaying the elite movement, workrate and power to beat and keep a cruiser-weight off him for 11 rounds and battling back after getting dropped by him in the 12th.

Cotto has excellent skills to trouble and perhaps beat anyone... at his true weight (147) and if they both were naturally campaigning at the same weight, this fight would be even, but they are not and so this fight is not.

This could very well end up being a showcase fight for Martinez and looking at their past, I'd say that due to their size difference, the best version of Martinez would utterly destroy any version of Cotto (while you're at it, add Mayweather to that too).

A lot is being made of Cotto's loss to Trout, obviously because Trout and Sergio share some similarities. Cotto didn't appear to be in great shape that night IMO. Roach pushes him and for that 4th world title, Cotto will be in shape for 12 rounds.

You also need to take into account Sergio looked so fast and elusive because he was facing a CW in the Chavez Jr. fight also. Chavez Jr. had strength, but was slow and threw almost no significant punches for 11 rounds.

That's why they fight the fights though as they say

[sugarsmosley]

Thing is, Martinez is not as good as some believe he is. What are his best wins? A victory over Pavlik who was struggling with alcohol addiction? Over weeded up version of Chavez Jr that as soon as he let his hands go battered Sergio around the ring like a ragdoll? Or was it against PWill who while good was as vulnerable a fighter as you could find and struggled against Ishida. In fact, Chavez Jr beats Martinez in a rematch if he lets his hands go from the opening bell.

Cotto's resume and opposition are far better. Cotto will hurt Martinez and beat him via UD. Whether he is 500% percent or a 100%.

macklin and barker are good wins too. i think barker was undefeated not sure though.

[RA-Box]

Roach pushes him and for that 4th world title, Cotto will be in shape for 12 rounds.

I kind of wish Cotto had one more fight before taking on Martinez, if just for the sake of seeing if Roach really is a better fit for him than Diaz (who I prefer).

Big Cotto fan btw. I'd be rooting for him if he was fighting any fighter other than Martinez.

[Vasyl’s dad]

[quote=El Angel] Quote:

Originally Posted by New England

cotto wouldn't even fight prime martinez.

Which is prime Martinez? The 34 year old who finally became MW champ? When Cotto was still at WW?

Cotto loses most of his biggest fights.

What's that have to do with the thread?

Everything. Those he lost to, were 100%.


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[El Angel]

macklin and barker are good wins too. i think barker was undefeated not sure though.

And also showed that if you make Sergio the aggressor, he isn't quite as comfortable as countering.

Correct on Barker being undefeated BTW.

[AgainstTheRopes]

As long as Martinez doesn't fall apart like Yuri Foreman, it should be a comfortable win for him.