the reason MAB is fighting Chavez........

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  • Sttuddahboy619
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    #21
    I think that MAB can take a win over JC. If JC fights like he did with Johnson, MAB can easily counter him because he was throwing wide range punches. I don't think it would be a walk in the park though, because Morales did okay with him eventhough he fought him with one arm after the six round! JC is a tough dude and 135 can be an issue for MAB.

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    • MetalVomit
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      #22
      Originally posted by flanker
      wow! I'm planning to post like this ^_^ well said.

      i agree 100% thats why i ranked him #2 in my p4p list. hehehe!

      (mab fans won't touch this issue *mouth zipped)

      I'm planning on laughing at idiots that get banned...














      wait for it...............














      hahaha. You=banned.





      MAB hopefully will fight Pac if he beats Chavez.

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      • morancito
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        #23
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        The bad thing about Chavez for Barrera is Chavez' energy level. He has good stamina and brings a high level of energy to the table when he fights. This is much like Pacquiao...who wouldn't let Marco coast when he wanted to at all.

        I just don't see Marco doing enough damage to Jesus to slow his attack down later in the fight. I could be very wrong though because Marco has proven that he's as dangerous as ever with his back against the wall.

        Good action fight no matter how you slice it.
        I'd be glad to bet some points against you (or anyone, for that matter) on this fight. Not that I know what the hell do those points mean, anyway.

        I win only if MAB beats Chavez by KO, TKO or UD (with at least a 4 point margin).

        Agree?

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        • oldgringo
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          #24
          Originally posted by morancito
          I'd be glad to bet some points against you (or anyone, for that matter) on this fight. Not that I know what the hell do those points mean, anyway.

          I win only if MAB beats Chavez by KO, TKO or UD (with at least a 4 point margin).

          Agree?
          Since the Morales/Pacquiao fight I've gone close to broke...only having 50 million plus the 2 mil you see out here.

          I'd be happy to put 50 mil down on this fight with you, although I don't like betting against Barrera unless he's fighting Morales or Pacquiao.

          But yeah i'll throw 50 mil on it...sound good?

          Chavez must win by KO/TKO/UD for me, Barrera by KO/TKO/UD for you

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          • morancito
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            #25
            Originally posted by oldgringo
            Since the Morales/Pacquiao fight I've gone close to broke...only having 50 million plus the 2 mil you see out here.

            I'd be happy to put 50 mil down on this fight with you, although I don't like betting against Barrera unless he's fighting Morales or Pacquiao.

            But yeah i'll throw 50 mil on it...sound good?

            Chavez must win by KO/TKO/UD for me, Barrera by KO/TKO/UD for you
            OK, except I just found out that I only have like 19,000 points. So do we leave it at 19000?

            Also, you will have to explain me what exactly are those points for.

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            • USA4LIFE
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              #26
              I think MAB will wear JC down with body shots and counters. MAB is more of a boxer then he used to be b/c he wants to lengthen his career as much as he can. I have all the confidence in the world that MAB will fight pac man again. Im thinking a fight with pac will be his last, he's not getting any younger, but first he must get passed the tough JC.

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              • psychopath
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                #27
                Originally posted by Chups
                If MAB loses, Pacquiao SHOULD NOT TAKE A MAB REMATCH! These greats have been using Manny as a stepping stone everytime they lose to an opponent (i.e Morales x2). Pacquiao can go ahead with a Morales trilogy or another Marquez bout. Pacquiao will not gain anything KOing "so called washed-up" Barrera again.

                Exactly ! ! !

                In their first encounter, Morales fought Pacquaio after a loss where he came out victorious. So he regained some stature. Then he lost to Raheem. He then fought Pac again hoping to be victorious as in the first time but came out the other way around. So Team Morales’ plan of getting back some lost stature fluke. And Morales is down, way way down in stature in fact he is out of the p4p list. Now he is asking for a rematch at a catch weight of 132 lbs.

                If the rematch is at 130 as what the contract says, YES for the rematch. If it’s at 132 then I say FORGET IT!

                Now If Barrera fights Chavez at 135 he will automatically be stripped of the WBC 130 belt as per WBC rules. I just don't know what's IBFs ruling on it. So if Barrera should lose to Chavez I don't think a Pac/Barrera fight is still necessary. The fact that Team Pacquaio has been pushing for that rematch since 2 years ago, why fight him now after a loss? And give him an opportunity to redeem himself via Pacquaio?

                Again FORGET IT!

                Why do these fighters only fight Pacquaio after a loss?

                The best thing that Pacquaio can do is fight the other belt holders at 130 and unify the titles.

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                • borikua
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                  #28
                  I love Barrera, but I think that Chavez is going to beat the **** out of him...

                  I would like to see Pac against Marquez...

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                  • TheEvilSaint
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by burglar
                    WHAT DO U GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS...CERTAINLY DOWN THE ROAD, MAB WANTS TO FIGHT PAC, HE'S JUST TOO PROUD TO JUST LET THE RECORD AND HISTORY BE AS IT IS TODAY.HE'LL FOREVER BE CALLED CHICKEN IF HE WON'T FIGHT PAC BEFORE HE HANG UP HIS GLOVES FOR GOOD.MAB KNOWS THAT. BUT SHOULD IT HAPPEN, AND DEFINITELY IT WILL, UNLESS FATES WILL INTERVENE,THIS I BELIEVE IS HIS, AND HIS THINK TANKS ARE PLANNIN.

                    HE IS NOT FIGHTIN PAC NOW, BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONFIDENCE HE HAS RIGHT NOW.IT'S MUCH TOO DANGEROUS FOR HIM.MOREOVER, HE IS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE WEIGHT THAT HE IS IN AS OF THE MOMENT,130 lbs. NOW,HE IS FIGHTIN CHAVEZ AT A MUCH HIGHER WEIGHT,135 lbs.IF HE BEATS CHAVEZ,HE'LL PROBABLY GOIN TO CALL OUT PAC TO FIGHT HIM AT THE SAME WEIGHT,135 lbs.LOGICAL, SINCE HE IS GOIN TO HOLD ONE PART OF THE LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION.AND HE IS GOIN TO DEFEND IT AGAINST PAC.

                    THE DILEMA AGAINST PAC HERE IS THIS, SHOULD HE DECIDES TO FIGHT MAB AT 135 lbs., IT WILL BE DANGEROUS FOR PAC,CONSIDERING THAT ONE OF HIS ADVANTAGES AGAINST MAB IS HIS SPEED.IT MAY BE AFFECTED BY THE SUDDEN CHANGE IN WEIGHT. CLEARLY MAB WILL HAVE AN ADVANTAGE AGAINST PAC IN SUCH A SCENARIO.SO THE MOST LOGICAL THING FOR PAC TO DO IS TO DECLINE A FIGHT WITH MAB AT 135 LBS.IF TODAY HE IS NOT FIGHTING MORALES AT 132 LBS., WHY WOULD HE RISK A FIGHT WITH MAB AT 135lbs.CERTAINLY PAC WONT RISK A FIGHT AT THAT WEIGHT.SO WHO WILL BE CALLED CHICKEN NOW.HISTORY WILL WRITE IT OFF LIKE THIS, "MAB WAS CHALLEGIN PAC BUT HE DECLINE A SECOND FIGHT WITH HIM."

                    NOW SHOULD MAB LOSES TO CHAVEZ, HE WILL HAVE ALL THE EXCUSES IN THE WORLD TO LOSE TO HIM.HE IS MUCH BIGGER. THEN IF HE DECIDES TO FIGHT PAC AFTER THE LOSS, GOIN DOWN TO 130 lbs AND HE EVENTUALLY LOSES TO PAC, HE WILL BE IN THE PRECARIOUS SITUATION THAT MORALES IS IN NOW.SUDDEN DROP OF WEIGHT, TIRED OF ALL THE BATTLES, OLD AGE, TO NAME A FEW, WOULD DEFINITELY BE AVAILABLE REASONS FOR HIM.NOT THAT PAC WAS A BETTER FIGHTER THAN HIM.

                    A WIN OR LOSS TO CHAVEZ WILL DEFINITELY BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CAREER AND LEGACY OF MAB..I MEAN WITH REGARD TO HIS EVENTUAL FIGHT WITH PAC....WHAT DO U THINK???BY THE WAY,,,, FILIPINO AKO!!!!!
                    stop shouting.

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                    • burglar
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                      #30
                      Sori for the caps, im not good at typin and at the time i was makin the thread i was in a hurry/again sorry

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