Who would do PPV business with this man?

[edgarg]

You guys sound as if you just don't have all your marbles. The story and scene were all described right on this site. The phone rang, Mayweather was on the line. Koncz handed the phone to MannyP. Phoney offered MannyP $40 mill with NO PPV. That was the deal. MannyP immediately offered him back $50 mill with the SAME other terms.

Mayweather hung off. How can even a congenital imbecile believe that this was a genuine offer. No negotiations, no arena, no TV advertising, nothing discussed. And NO PROMOTERS when Pacquiao has a 27% deal with Top Rank. He also has an 82% PPV deal with Top Rank. You guys have NO IDEA how much Pacquiao earns, or gets, or spends or buries under the fireplace.

The reason that MannyP's guarantees are so low is because by Commission Law, the guarantee MUST be paid over to the boxer on fight-night. DO YOU UNDERSTND THIS...?? So it leaves a lot more cash available for the promoter to use because he has to pay in advance or on the spot for a million and one things that are involved in a promotion. Also it prevents every Tom, **** or Harry..meaning you guys, from knowing the inside of boxers' financial affairs. It's not your business anyway, and there's no reason except morbid curiosity for you to find out.

Also you all seem to be talking in telephone numbers. There's no way that any fight, unless it sells about 4 mill PPV could pay the enormous sums that you think these guys get. Of course, if you believe a many-time, proven liar like Mayweather, then you'll believe anything so I'll stop right here.

It seems the longer your post exchanges go on, the wilder the claims get.

[edgarg]

40 million minus top ranks cut=average payday for pac and that's before the ppv money he gets, and hes getting no ppv money against Floyd.........what a deal! also pac can't just leave top rank and take the 40 million its called a contract

arum doesn't owe Floyd sh-it. If Floyd had a case he would take it to court and get his money but he has nothing but lies.

DAGGUM-For the first time in a while you are serious and absolutely right. That mythical money that Arum supposedly owes Mayweather, was all published years ago. Several times, and I've written it here a few times as well.

Top Rank did indeed owe Phoney money, and was paying it either monthly or quarterly (can't recall) according TO CONTRACT. It got lost amongst the ruck. So one day, Top Rank discovered that they had in fact overpaid and Mayweather owed them money. But, although it was a substantial sum, it wasn't enough to go after considering the legal expenses and headache with Mayweather on the other end. So they wrote it off.

[edgarg]

That 40 mil flat fee is a bunch of bull****. The interview I was refering to came from Floyds mouth. And he said Manny handed the phone back to Konz before they could discuss the money on the back end. He just wanted to agree to the 40 mil guarunteed.

Phoney is a congenital liar, and has been caught out is dozens and dozens of times, which everyone on this site-including you- know very well. He's a liar and nobody, particularly him, would ever make a fight deal in that way.

[edgarg]

He got a 26m one for Bradley? That's rather impressive actually all things considered. In that case he'd have lost money on the back end, it's not worth it. Though if floyd was offering 40m with ppv upside.... then yeah it's def worth it and he should've took the offer, I bet if offered at this point he'd take it but who knows.

There was no "upside" offered, and considering the PR way this call came about, it might have been a 1% upside........ or less.

[AboutBillions]

Again with the 40m. Hey dumba$$, he's under contract with TR and they're due a minimum if they're cut out of the promotion. TR and Pac split over 40m for JMM 3, 4, and you think that's the right price for the biggest money fight of all time?! GTFO troll

I Agree 40m is ***** if arum tales a cut out of it, as a counter manny was a free agent sometime down the line and that was the truth, but he resigned with Arum so that 40m could have been all his.

[AboutBillions]

edit: (Removed this line becuase this thread went left.)

If you care about Manny then you should be disgusted in what Arum is doing to the guy. While Pacquiao is putting his life on the line, Arum is under paying him millions.

Apparently Arum still owes Floyd millions too. Do you blame Floyd to not want to do business with Arum?

Honestly I wouldn't have put the first line there if I knew the rest of the text would be ignored lol

[soul_survivor]

edit: (Removed this line becuase this thread went left.)

If you care about Manny then you should be disgusted in what Arum is doing to the guy. While Pacquiao is putting his life on the line, Arum is under paying him millions.

Apparently Arum still owes Floyd millions too. Do you blame Floyd to not want to do business with Arum?

Seriously never before in the history of this sport, have purses, PPV earnings and viewership been used to this extent to prevent a fight of this magnitude from happening.

Can you imagine Ali telling Frazier he wasn't going to fight him cos he wasn't earning as much, or Ali saying a 50/50 split with Foreman wasn't worth it. Or Leonard skipping out on fights with Duran, Hagler and Hearns cos they didn't do as many commercials as him and weren't as well known in the USA.

Can you imagine Oscar saying he wouldn't fight anyone who didn't at least do 1 million PPV buys...come on man. This **** is gettin crazy.

[soul_survivor]

You guys sound as if you just don't have all your marbles. The story and scene were all described right on this site. The phone rang, Mayweather was on the line. Koncz handed the phone to MannyP. Phoney offered MannyP $40 mill with NO PPV. That was the deal. MannyP immediately offered him back $50 mill with the SAME other terms.

Mayweather hung off. How can even a congenital imbecile believe that this was a genuine offer. No negotiations, no arena, no TV advertising, nothing discussed. And NO PROMOTERS when Pacquiao has a 27% deal with Top Rank. He also has an 82% PPV deal with Top Rank. You guys have NO IDEA how much Pacquiao earns, or gets, or spends or buries under the fireplace.

The reason that MannyP's guarantees are so low is because by Commission Law, the guarantee MUST be paid over to the boxer on fight-night. DO YOU UNDERSTND THIS...?? So it leaves a lot more cash available for the promoter to use because he has to pay in advance or on the spot for a million and one things that are involved in a promotion. Also it prevents every Tom, **** or Harry..meaning you guys, from knowing the inside of boxers' financial affairs. It's not your business anyway, and there's no reason except morbid curiosity for you to find out.

Also you all seem to be talking in telephone numbers. There's no way that any fight, unless it sells about 4 mill PPV could pay the enormous sums that you think these guys get. Of course, if you believe a many-time, proven liar like Mayweather, then you'll believe anything so I'll stop right here.

It seems the longer your post exchanges go on, the wilder the claims get.

ATG post here, Floyd has gone from saying he earned 8 mill against a nobody like Baldomir to earning tens of millions against guys like Guerrero.

He isn't even his own promoter, GBP play a huge role in that. The amount of ****

[IMDAZED]

Seriously never before in the history of this sport, have purses, PPV earnings and viewership been used to this extent to prevent a fight of this magnitude from happening.

Can you imagine Ali telling Frazier he wasn't going to fight him cos he wasn't earning as much, or Ali saying a 50/50 split with Foreman wasn't worth it. Or Leonard skipping out on fights with Duran, Hagler and Hearns cos they didn't do as many commercials as him and weren't as well known in the USA.

Can you imagine Oscar saying he wouldn't fight anyone who didn't at least do 1 million PPV buys...come on man. This **** is gettin crazy.

I agree. But then I remember Manny turning down 50-50.

[jetgizo]

Phoney is a congenital liar, and has been caught out is dozens and dozens of times, which everyone on this site-including you- know very well. He's a liar and nobody, particularly him, would ever make a fight deal in that way.

I take Floyd at his word over anybody from NSB. Besides when you turn down a 50/50 split from Floyd Mayweather there is no way to convince me they wanted the fight. No other fighter including Cotto/Canelo has even came close to sniffing a 50/50 split since. And you have enough balls to say with a straight face Floyd didnt want the fight? Sorry man but the facts dont support your argument.