Comments Thread For: Showtime Prez: Mayweather-Pacquiao, Not With Top Rank

[WalkerSmith1921]

Dude STFU already!!!

Don't you think that asking Pacquiao to leave Top Rank for the fight IS "roadblocking"...?? I can't think it's anything else. Are you so blinded by your own argument that you can't see the facts ?? Top Rank is still the premier promoter with it's own PPV capabilities and constantly innovating the industry. And even if Golden Balls had a good year, what about it; Top Rank also had a good year. Showtime had a good year..so did HBO. But Arum and HBO have to release their long-time global icon just because Mayweather is behaving like a spoiled child and by doing this give Golden Balls and Showtime a huge achievement. You know nothing about business, and certainly not the PR business.

Phoney doesn't want to make the fight until he is certain he will win and take only little damage. That time seems not yet to have arrived.

[WalkerSmith1921]

so everyone conveniently forgot about mosley and marquez having to leave GBP to fight pacquiao?

nobody wants to deal with arum's scummy tactics and his slave contracts. not showtime, not oscar, not mayweather, not donaire or rigo.

And Cotto.

[John Barron]

We always hear the same old crap about Arum, and his clever off-the-cuff retort to the reporter who reneged on Arum's boozy off-the-record confidence the night before... "I was lying last night but I'm telling the truth today". It was regarded as a snappy, clever, on the spur, (of the moment) back-answer when he said it, but BoxingScene urban drek has smeared it into a "to be shot at dawn" crime.

Other than Oscar, for business reasons and a big helping of envy, and Mayweather, who is a malicious child and left because he said that Arum "wasn't promoting me properly", I haven't heard of anyone with such a degree of hatred and jealousy against Arum. Indeed, his former fighters have the finest things to say about him. He promoted every top fighter that Don King wasn't , and in fact also those that were lucky enough to get away from King. He did 26 of Muhammed Ali's fights and Marvin Hagler's whole career from beginning to end, with nothing but a handshake agreement. Also George Foreman's whole comeback to win the title.

So why don't you do us all-including the clueless lemming denigrators- a good turn for the New Year, by telling us the 57 different reasons that make Arum "a scumbag".........

Tell us, Please...... I've asked this about a dozen times in the past and no-one yet has been able to oblige. Other than tiresomely repeating DiBella's angry repetition of the above quip.

here we go with top rank's favorite shill...

i don't have to list "57" reasons for your satisfaction, no thank you. the contract breaches and lawsuits speak for themselves. hell, even manny thought it was a good idea to sign a GBP contract at one point, remember?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

[junior gong]

Manny's promotional team are willing to work with Floyd's to make the fight, while Floyds team arent. If it isnt clear to you who the problem is here then you must be some kind of spastic/bumsniff.

[John Barron]

Let's be honest for a second.

Juan Manuel Marquez will never fight Manny Pacquiao for the fifth time no matter how much money you give him. Not because Marquez is scared of Pacquiao but because he knows he can't knock Pacquiao out again like what he did in their fourth fight. Like he said he wants to take that memory with him for the rest of his life and that the chapter is done. Period.

At the same time regardless of what people think. No amount of money could have made Lennox Lewis get in the ring with Vitali Klitschko for the second time. Lennox Lewis knows he got away and fighting Vitali Klitschko again would have been his biggest mistake.

Same thing with Mayweather Jr. He knows in his heart Manny Pacquiao is a risk he's not willing to take no matter how much he gets paid. Maintaining his zero is too important to him.

I'm sure there are more examples but I'm really tired right now. I hope I've explained it well. There are just those instances when no money in the world will push a fighter to get in that ring. Those three examples I gave are 100% true no matter which fighter you are rooting for.

marquez is also at the fragile age of 40. he clearly wants to avenge his loss to bradley and move on from the sport. he already has 4 fights with manny, 3 being highly contested and 1 by brutal KO - nothing more needs to be said.

pac******s never stfu about legacy over money but are quick to ridicule marquez for being a coward because he's not taking a money fight.

[edgarg]

sure, deflect the topic.



it doesnt change the fact that arum is a notorious scumbag and that his fighters are trying to go to GBP or elsewhere.

We always hear the same old crap about Arum, and his clever off-the-cuff retort to the reporter who reneged on Arum's boozy off-the-record confidence the night before... "I was lying last night but I'm telling the truth today". It was regarded as a snappy, clever, on the spur, (of the moment) back-answer when he said it, but BoxingScene urban drek has smeared it into a "to be shot at dawn" crime.

Other than Oscar, for business reasons and a big helping of envy, and Mayweather, who is a malicious child and left because he said that Arum "wasn't promoting me properly", I haven't heard of anyone with such a degree of hatred and jealousy against Arum. Indeed, his former fighters have the finest things to say about him. He promoted every top fighter that Don King wasn't , and in fact also those that were lucky enough to get away from King. He did 26 of Muhammed Ali's fights and Marvin Hagler's whole career from beginning to end, with nothing but a handshake agreement. Also George Foreman's whole comeback to win the title.

So why don't you do us all-including the clueless lemming denigrators- a good turn for the New Year, by telling us the 57 different reasons that make Arum "a scumbag".........

Tell us, Please...... I've asked this about a dozen times in the past and no-one yet has been able to oblige. Other than tiresomely repeating DiBella's angry repetition of the above quip.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Take da test, Manny!

[SamuraiSam]

I know Floyd is not the issue. Floyd wants the fight. Floyd will fight Manny Pacquiao anywhere, any time. Unfortunately, there is a promotional conflict which is the issue.

u're absolutely correct sir

However bunch of idiotic Pacquiao's fans still cant get it.

Ironic how zuz addresses Espinoza being "absolutely correct sir" and those who don't "get it" are idiots, when zuz doesn't realize that we who do get it can see through the backward logic and idiocy in Espinoza's words.

Notice the key phrases in Espinoza's frustrated explanation of the excuse conveyed to him by Floyd:

"Floyd is not the issue."

"...a promotional conflict is the issue."

QUESTION: WHO is declaring the promoter as a conflicting issue?

It's all back on Floyd, who was NOT making it an issue during...how many negotiations now in the past? Two, three or four prior negotiations? Isn't the person who is claiming Manny's current promoter is an issue really the originator of that issue? Isn't a person who claims to want it anytime, anywhere, but NOT with that promoter presenting an ISSUE or an obstacle to getting negotiations started?

In other words, Espinoza's first sentence is a LIE. Floyd is not an issue?!?! GTFO!!! Floyd is making the promotional conflict an issue, so HE IS the issue. I thought Floyd was his own boss. If so, he should fire or override whoever it is on his team (IF it's not really himself) who is making the promotional conflict an issue that's desperately holding him back, tying his arms up behind his back, preventing him from aggressively moving forward to that negotiation table so he can finalize that "anytime, anywhere" provision, so he can make "easy-work" out of that "one-dimensional" "yellow midget" in the ring and further justify his bragging rights of making a world record breaking payday.

So what do you say now, zuz? Who doesn't "get it"? Who doesn't see the conflicting/contradictory words through the smoke screen? Who are the idiots now? You and your fellow Floydiots can get back on that short yellow bus back to Floydie Town.

Here's what I'd like to see happen next. Manny pays Bob a step aside fee, and he signs a one fight deal with any other promoter except GoldenBoy or TMT. Then we'll see what new obstacle Floyd throws up.

"Anytime, anywhere, any promoter except TopRank?" Okay...how about on Manny's birthday...in Macau, Manila, Cowboy Stadium or anywhere else but Las Vegas...and promoted by Floyd's old buddy Fifty Cent's SMS Promotions, or Mike Tyson's IronMikeProductions? LOL. I can imagine Floyd having electronic security measures to screen Fifty or MT before they enter the negotiating room just to make sure they don't have an ear wick in their ear where they hear Bob guiding them through the negotiations. LOL.

[imjustsaying]

Let's be honest for a second.

Juan Manuel Marquez will never fight Manny Pacquiao for the fifth time no matter how much money you give him. Not because Marquez is scared of Pacquiao but because he knows he can't knock Pacquiao out again like what he did in their fourth fight. Like he said he wants to take that memory with him for the rest of his life and that the chapter is done. To Marquez that's more important. Period.

At the same time regardless of what people think. No amount of money could have made Lennox Lewis get in the ring with Vitali Klitschko for the second time. Lennox Lewis knows he got away and fighting Vitali Klitschko again would have been his biggest mistake. He won and to him that's more important. Period.

Same thing with Mayweather Jr. He knows in his heart Manny Pacquiao is a risk he's not willing to take no matter how much he gets paid. Maintaining his zero is too important to him. Period.

I'm sure there are more examples but I'm really tired right now. I hope I've explained it well. There are just those instances when no money in the world will push a fighter to get in that ring. Those three examples I gave are 100% true no matter which fighter you are rooting for.