Comments Thread For: Maidana Taunts Mayweather Over Broner's Defeat

[radioraheem]

You can't be serious...Maidana would beat the living shhhhh out of Guerrero lets not even kid ourselves about that one...Brawler vs Brawler..Guerrero doesn't walk out of that ring intact.

I'm not sure who wins between a Guerrero vs. Maidana fight. I would probably lean towards Guerrero because he loves inside dog fights. And he is also dirtier than Maidana. Guerrero would catch punishment, but Maidana would catch the same punishment if not more. And again, Guerrero is willing to get really, really dirty. And then Guerrero is a southpaw at that. Just bad combos that would leave to a nasty war that, no matter the winner, they'll both end up losing.

[TLC8]

I'm glad you quit talking about that "war" Duran had with Hearns.

Sometimes wars end early...ie: Hagler/Hearns.... Hearns/Duran.... Hearns/Pipino Cuevas..... Mike Tyson/Michael Spinks.... the point is they were Legends, they had serious machismo, and they could care less who it was, they wanted to climb in the ring with the best, and do it two or three times if need be. These guys didn't worry about the possibly of losing. They man'd up and fought the best, let the money take care of itself secondary. Not the same game today. Everyone is carefully manuevered and managed around to the safest route to the bank.

[Big_L]

LOL... Khan is probably the ONLY guy in Boxing Floyd could possible knock out or even knock down!!! When is the last time Floyd had the ballz to exchange and actually knocked somebody out??? Victor Ortiz on a break, stepped back, with his hands at his side, looking directly at the referee, when he took a blind cheap shot and knocked out... ****** on Ortiz. Before that..... who and when, and how long ago was that?!!? Luckily Khan has a very fragile chin.

i agree with most of what you said. i just think seeing khan getting knocked out will be more entertaining than watching another one-sided decision.

aint like either fight is compelling.

[R_Walken]

I give Floyd credit for his fight back in the day with Zab Judah, who nearly knocked Floyd out, but he weathered the storm and got back out on the end of his jab and boxed himself to a win. That's it. That's when Floyd realized he doesn't like getting hit. Sorry, I recognize you have a man crush on Floyd and he just wants your money, so that will be a hard fall, when you finally come to your senses, Floyd doesn't care about you; he uses you for your money.

Where do I start with credible fights for Pacquiao... lets see, let me look hard here.... Barrera (2 twice), Erik Morales (3 times), Marquez (4 times) all Hall of Famers, in their prime and before Pacquiao's prime. Add in Cotto in his prime, Margarito who was 25 lbs heavier than Pac (Floyd wanted nothing to do with Margarito after he dismantled Cotto), Clottey was much larger and hit much harder than Pacquiao. We won't even count Hatton, Dela hoya or Mosley. Pacquiao has fought EVERYBODY Boxing thru in front of him. He's waited 5 years now for a fight with Floyd, but Floyd has more excuses than hand picked opponents, for not fighting Floyd.

I didn't realize you had a personal relationship with Manny and he wasn't fighting for your $ he just got in the ring to bring excitement and isn't concerned with $ maybe he should care or he wouldn't be getting rapped for his taxes . Obviously I disagree with you the only fight you'll give him credit for is Judah but whatever. It's clear you'd never give Mayweather credit that's your prerogative.

I think your wrong with giving Manny credit for fighting a emotionally scarred Margarito or Cotto after he got slaughtered both at CW and give credit for Clottley because he was bigger but won't give Floyd credit for fighting Alvarez and Oscar who were both larger than Floyd. And it's crazy that you would think Barrera was in his prime the last time he fought Manny, same can be said for Moreales. And PAC could have very easily lost all 4 to Marquez ( do you think Manny won the 3rd fight?)

I'll give Manny credit he's a ATG and legend its just funny how his supporters won't give Mayweather any credit and Manny can do no wrong. I'll give you credit for at least answering the question even if you won't answer how you scored the dela Hoya / Mayweather fight because you know it wasn't close and it just suits your agenda.

[TLC8]

i agree with most of what you said. i just think seeing khan getting knocked out will be more entertaining than watching another one-sided decision.

aint like either fight is compelling.

What was the other fight option???? If you're thinking Maidana/Floyd... that fight starts out looking like Canelo and Guerrero... floyd staying outside out of harms way as long as he can. The difference is Maidana has more hand & foot speed that Canelo and Guerrero, and hits harder than Guerrero. Maidana is no longer the same fighter everyone saw make his debut at '47 against Alexander. He's taken his game to much greater heights physically & mentally. He would be dangerous for Floyd, but could be boring as the last two were if Floyd wants to run all night and call that "good defense".

Guerero has done nothing since he cashed his Mayweather check and needs some action soon, before his game regresses.

[radioraheem]

1) Well past their prime: (Cotto, Mosley).
2) Smaller: (Hatton, Marquez).
3) One dimensional: (Hatton, Marquez, Guerrero, Canelo, Gatti).
4) Too Old: (Cotto, Mosley, potentially Sergio Martinez next).
5) Lead with their chin skill set: (Hatton, Marquez, Gatti, Guerrero, Canelo).
6) Had too many wars: (Cotto, Mosley).
7) Have a big following in the UK for an easy payday: (Hmmm... Amir Khan).
8) Inexperienced & ******: (Ortiz, Canelo).
9) Cuts & bleeds as easy as a stuck pig: (Hatton, Gatti, Marquez, Guerrero).
10) Not named 'Pacquiao': (Manny Pacquiao still waiting after 5 years, just like Cotto & Mosley did).

You basically discredit every single fighter that Mayweather has fought/beaten. Saying that in other words, they are all garbage, even though all of these same fighters you criticize were champions with achievements.

Using your pattern of reasoning, if Floyd loses to his next opponent, will you then say that opponent only beat Floyd because he was too old being that he would be 37?

[dc3383]

He chose Cotto after making Cotto wait more than 10 years to fight. He wouldnt' fight Cotto in his prime. So he was hoping Cotto had too many wars, that defeats to Pacquaio and Margarito had taken too much out of Cotto.... Floyd nearly guessed wrong on those assumptions, and got drug into a street fight he did not want to be in. Got his face bloodied and swollen, immediately looking for sunglasses after the fight. hence immediately he reconciled with his dad so to learn how to get on his bike and not engage in battles like that again, no matter how far after their prime they are.

So dumba$$ Cotto was trying to fight Floyd in 2002 when he was a lightweight before Cotto went pro. A bloody nose doesn't equal a face swollen. But 2008 and 2012 doesn't equal close to ten years.

[radioraheem]

What was the other fight option???? If you're thinking Maidana/Floyd... that fight starts out looking like Canelo and Guerrero... floyd staying outside out of harms way as long as he can. The difference is Maidana has more hand & foot speed that Canelo and Guerrero, and hits harder than Guerrero. Maidana is no longer the same fighter everyone saw make his debut at '47 against Alexander. He's taken his game to much greater heights physically & mentally. He would be dangerous for Floyd, but could be boring as the last two were if Floyd wants to run all night and call that "good defense".

Guerero has done nothing since he cashed his Mayweather check and needs some action soon, before his game regresses.

Maidana is no more dangerous than Guerrero though. Guerrero a dirtier fighter than Maidana, and one who loved inside dog fights. And on top of that Guerrero is a southpaw. Wasn't the consensus that Floyd can't handle southpaws well? Maidana isn't even a southpaw, so he doesn't even have that as an edge going into the fight. At least Guerrero had that stylistic advantage.

[dc3383]

1) Well past their prime: (Cotto, Mosley).
2) Smaller: (Hatton, Marquez).
3) One dimensional: (Hatton, Marquez, Guerrero, Canelo, Gatti).
4) Too Old: (Cotto, Mosley, potentially Sergio Martinez next).
5) Lead with their chin skill set: (Hatton, Marquez, Gatti, Guerrero, Canelo).
6) Had too many wars: (Cotto, Mosley).
7) Have a big following in the UK for an easy payday: (Hmmm... Amir Khan).
8) Inexperienced & ******: (Ortiz, Canelo).
9) Cuts & bleeds as easy as a stuck pig: (Hatton, Gatti, Marquez, Guerrero).
10) Not named 'Pacquiao': (Manny Pacquiao still waiting after 5 years, just like Cotto & Mosley did).

Cotto is younger than Floyd so are you saying Floyd is to old. And since when does Canelo or Marquez lead with there chin or him being one dimensional. Since Marquez is to small then there's no need for a Manny fight correct.

[TLC8]

I didn't realize you had a personal relationship with Manny and he wasn't fighting for your $ he just got in the ring to bring excitement and isn't concerned with $ maybe he should care or he wouldn't be getting rapped for his taxes . Obviously I disagree with you the only fight you'll give him credit for is Judah but whatever. It's clear you'd never give Mayweather credit that's your prerogative.

I think your wrong with giving Manny credit for fighting a emotionally scarred Margarito or Cotto after he got slaughtered both at CW and give credit for Clottley because he was bigger but won't give Floyd credit for fighting Alvarez and Oscar who were both larger than Floyd. And it's crazy that you would think Barrera was in his prime the last time he fought Manny, same can be said for Moreales. And PAC could have very easily lost all 4 to Marquez ( do you think Manny won the 3rd fight?)

I'll give Manny credit he's a ATG and legend its just funny how his supporters won't give Mayweather any credit and Manny can do no wrong. I'll give you credit for at least answering the question even if you won't answer how you scored the dela Hoya / Mayweather fight because you know it wasn't close and it just suits your agenda.

LOL.... So now you don't want to give Floyd credit for the Judah win???? No love affair with Manny at all, but it's the same old story we saw with Cotto & Mosley... all were very dangerous in their prime, they fought everybody in their primes. Floyd wouldnt touch either one of those guys. Pacquiao comes roaring on the scene destroying everyone, and Floyd has had 5 years to make that fight, and has too many excuses not to.... that's not a Champion. Most in Boxing didn't see Floyd as victorious over Oscar and neither did I! Oscar offered a $25M immediate rematch, and heard crickets from Floyd...... Look, I just love Boxing. I love the legends that paved the way for the next breed. As I said earlier, had Floyd come in and beat Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao and Sergio Martinez all in their prime, then offered a rematch just to show it was not a fluke, he's the man... I don't even care Mayweather has a "0"... I have no problem with that; it's manufactured, and he admits as much. I don't care who won any of the 4 Marquez fights! Or any of the three Morales fights and YES Barrera was in his prime when he fought Manny. Manny came into his own when he got to 140/147........Manny Pacquiao always had the ballz to climb in the ring with them..... Floyd doesn't wear that same sack.

This "emotionally scarred" comment is just dumb.... Alvarez was 23, inexperienced, and got schooled. Lets see how Alvarez bounces back during a time he has Chavez, Jr, Gennady, and possibly Andre Ward at '68, where in a couple years, Alvarez easily makes that fight weight wise.