Comments Thread For: Koncz: Marquez Will Never Fight Manny Pacquiao Again

[hitking]

I really don't understand the fan logic of not wanting a 5th fight. I mean, JMM is 40 and has earned the right to do whatever he wants. But I don't see how anyome can say that that was a conclusive victory. Yes, he KO'd Manny. But its not like he dominated, and then KO'd Manny. It was a very competitive fight. And actually, at the time of the KO, Pac seemed to be getting the better of it.

[check hook]

So JMM wins ONE of their fights, gets lucky, and says 'that's it' w/Pac. Oh well, there goes another great fight. Between that and Floydie ducking Pac, I guess we're 0 for 2 on great fights upcoming. Not that there won't be some killer matchups in '14... but these 2 would've been gold for the sport.

So he didn't clearly win fight three? What about the draw and the close decision to Pac in 1 and 2. JMM is just a lucky lucky guy

[check hook]

I still don't understand how Marquez managed to make people believe he actually won any of the first 3 fights they are clear as day to me and Im mexican .....

did bradley really defeat pacquiao

He def won the thrid fight. The first two you can both give to MP imo, then he KO'd him in fight 4. In this series JMM is the one who actually has a definitive victory and he should actually have two definitive victories. The thrid fight was close but he clearly won it.

[HanzGruber]

So after he fights Bradley again. Who the hell else is there under tr for him to fight?

[WalkerSmith1921]

how is being 1-2-1 "having bragging rights?"

And it's really 1-3

Check-Hooks you need to learn how to check fights dude. It's called bragging rights because Manny got his azz knocked out COLD!!!! He didn't lose a decision and was almost dead in that fight.

[joesaiditstrue]

so which of you dumbasses are gonna keep paying for top ranks Pacquiao round-robin bull****?

[PunchyPotorff]

Marquez won the only fight between them which had a definitive, non debatable result. The rest were pickem fights and imo if anyone had to be declared a winner in any of the first 3 fights it was Marquez, especially the 3rd fight. That said I don't know who Pac could fight because I thought Bradley nor Marquez were interested in facing him thus being why they fought each other. Lastly I don't see why Ruslan P. would fight him either considering he would have to face him with an unfimiliar trainer in his corner and Roach in Pac's corner nowing exactly the best game plan to use against his former charge. I kno the trainers don't fight but they make a huge difference especially in a close matchup.

I thought especially the 3rd fight that Pac won convincingly. Not by a wide margin, maybe 2 points, 3 at the most, but still a solid W. I think the Pac haters see fight #4 as the definitive fight if the 4. That's discounting the other 3 IMO. Lotta interesting chess match moves in those. You're right though, Ruslan would get owned by Pac. Kind of like Rios II.

[kamikaze_ero]

Considering the outcome of the 4 fights between Pac and Marquez (1 TKO Marquez win, 2 Split decision wins for Pac and 1 draw), I would rather be in Marquez's shoes, having a convincing victory in my belt, which unfortunately was a most humiliating one for Pacquiao.

one punch saved Marquez from a total beatdown he received prior, when Pacman got careless and became too aggressive in closing round...that one punch which legendary PED expert, chemist and scientist in MEMO made it possible

[PunchyPotorff]

it's not even about bragging rights or who's better than who. both of them said before the 4th fight that if there was a conclusive ending, it would be the last fight. they said this numerous times this is why manny went so hard for the knockout in comparison to the bradley fight where he only fought the last minute of each round.

they both said before the fight this would be the last if it was conclusive. they said this many times. so having said that, there is no reason for a 5th fight because the result of the 4th fight could not have been any more conclusive unless he actually knocked manny into a coma or something. but as far as boxing results go, the result was very clear.

no bs about getting lucky either. he stepped outside of manny's lead foot to get a better punching angle, ducked the jab and countered with a punch directly at manny's face and it hit him in the face. not to mention you can see him in the slow mo adjusting the punch to make sure it lands. if that's a lucky punch then all punches are lucky punches cuz that punch was the opposite of a lucky punch.

Thought I saw Manny stumbling from maybe their feet getting tied up. Not taking away from JMM, but I have watched it a few times, seems that's what occurred. And JMM caught him at just the right time, as he stumbled. Now here comes the Pac haters. HA

[PunchyPotorff]

keep telling yourself that. The thrid fight with the exception of the KO was a clear win for JMM. It's more like 2 wins JMM, a draw and one win for Manny, or two and two, or 4 and nil in favour of JMM.

It's perfectly reasonable to argue Manny won the first two fights, howver JMM has won the other two CLEARLY, and that's the difference. Manny hasn't beaten him CLEARLY even in the official decision he got.

Punchstats on the 3rd fight don't agree w/your assessment. Nacho told JMM to ease off the gas pedal, he was winning anyway (Nacho said), and that's what JMM did. May have been a diff story if he'd have pushed it in the 12th. But he didn't.