Wlad will fight Toney before he fights Brewster

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OG, its not about hating Wlad. How could you hate them (besides the gay ass photo shoots).

I hate their nuthugging fans. Byrd is NOT who he should be fighting. He should try fighting the winner of Rahman Toney.

You can say, well he'd have to wait. Yeah, nothing new. He isnt the most active fighter.

But, he's running from his Rahman (yeah, that bum). I don't think he wants to even commit to a verbal agreement to the winner of Rahman Toney, because whoever wins would have a hell of a lot of momentum.

INSTEAD he's choosing a cruiserweight he beat and he's fighting him in GERMANY to seal the deal.

This is frustrating. He's doing a Mayweather. Not challenging himself, except Floyd's fans are more critical of him that Wlad's fans are of him.

It made me SICK to my stomach that there were people in the original Byrd-Wlad thread cheering on the fight. They just want Wlad to say he has a belt and I believe they actually want Wlad to be a fringe competitor. One that ducks fighters.

bloodshed, i can't really see how you are trying to knock wlads win against peter.

i hate wlad as much as the next guy but peter was the WORST possible style matchup for him. a big, youthful puncher with a very good chin.

anyway, people who are saying another wlad/brewster fight would look like the wlad/peter fight are way off. brewster is a better fighter at this point than is peter and most importantly, HE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS! peter could not do that, and was getting hammered while throwing 1 punch at a time.

for evidence look at the brewster/krasniqi fight. brewster was getting tattooed with stiff jabs and rights, made the adjustment by going to the body, and came out with the TKO win.

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Brewster lost to Kali Meehan. But the momentum was with him, after beating Wlad, so they gave him the decision.

He isn't nearly invincible as people are making him out to be.

for evidence look at the brewster/krasniqi fight. brewster was getting tattooed with stiff jabs and rights, made the adjustment by going to the body, and came out with the TKO win.

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It's clear that Wlad is heartless and spineless taking on BYRD and in GERMANY.

I just know that Wlad will go after Toney before Brewster?

Wlad is going the easiest route. I just know he will pull another ***** move.

Fans, will you lose respect for Wlad if(more like when) he takes on Toney before Brewster?

lol,,,,hes not fighting brewster because king and brewster wont chance losing the title to a guy that was beating him to a pulp until wlad somehow gassed himself so he's fighting byrd instead

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Byrd is NOT who he should be fighting. He should try fighting the winner of Rahman Toney.

How is that? He is the #1 contender for the IBF and WBO belts....not the WBC. There are fighters ranked higher than him in that organization.

Moot point.

You can say, well he'd have to wait. Yeah, nothing new. He isnt the most active fighter.

oh yeah? he is one of the most active heavyweights in the division. He's fought 6 times in the past 2 years.....

you do the math.

But, he's running from his Rahman (yeah, that bum). I don't think he wants to even commit to a verbal agreement to the winner of Rahman Toney, because whoever wins would have a hell of a lot of momentum.

haha whatever. Wlad K.O. Rahman 2.

INSTEAD he's choosing a cruiserweight he beat and he's fighting him in GERMANY to seal the deal.

Oh yeah? Toney is a blow up super middleweight....LOL. and I don't hear you complaining about that.



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Nash......

I'm not flaming or anything......But stop making **** up.



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Brewster lost to Kali Meehan. But the momentum was with him, after beating Wlad, so they gave him the decision.

He isn't nearly invincible as people are making him out to be.

I won't comment on the Meehan fight because I haven't seen it.

I agree that he's not invincible, nowhere close in fact. He did impress me however with the way he came back to beat Krasniqi (who is a solid HW in many facets of the game) in GERMANY. He didn't let judges get in the way...he took matters into his own hands. Krasniqi is a MUCH better fighter than Meehan.

I understand the frustration with Wlad fighting Byrd because theres little/no chance that Byrd will beat him. I feel that he should go after Brewster, but if he wants to go grab the belt from Byrd and then go after Brewster I'm fine with that too. As long as he doesn't sit on it, fighting bums for the rest of his career...

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A) In a weak ass division needing a champion, Wlad hasn't fought in 6 months nor agreeing to a matchup until last week. That is inactive to me. Essentially the division is anyone's and he's waiting 5/6 months to AGREE to a fight? Thats what I mean by inactive. And his last meaningful fight was in April 04 against Brewster. That's what I'm talking about in being inactive.

If you really want to call yourself the best in the division, why are you going on nearly two years to have a meaningful fight? And his first meaningful fight in 2 years is against a blown up cruiser he already beat and he wants it in Germany.

If that's not hand selecting your opponents I don't know what is.

B) Rahman made his brother retire. Vitali is better than Rahman, EASILY. Better chin, harder puncher. Wlad has reasons to be afraid. He knows sure as hell Byrd won't knock him out. And Manny probably convinced Wlad to take on Peter. Don't you think it's fishy how Wlad fought the same way Lewis fought Tua? They had the same trainer. No doubt in my mind, Manny did some persuading.

B) Toney is more of a threat than Byrd. Neither will knock him out. But Toney sure isn't easy to hit and he's confident as hell. Toney is better than Byrd. But ***** Wlad is opting to fight a man he already beat and in shady ass Germany.

How is that? He is the #1 contender for the IBF and WBO belts....not the WBC. There are fighters ranked higher than him in that organization.

Moot point.



oh yeah? he is one of the most active heavyweights in the division. He's fought 6 times in the past 2 years.....

you do the math.



haha whatever. Wlad K.O. Rahman 2.



Oh yeah? Toney is a blow up super middleweight....LOL. and I don't hear you complaining about that.

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If you really want to call yourself the best in the division, why are you going on nearly two years to have a meaningful fight? And his first meaningful fight in 2 years is against a blown up cruiser he already beat and he wants it in Germany.

yeah its kind of hard to get a big fight when you get knocked out in your previous fights.

B) Rahman made his brother retire.

Vitali's injury caused him to retire. There is nobody outside of you that thought Rahman would win that fight.

B) Toney is more of a threat than Byrd. Neither will knock him out. But Toney sure isn't easy to hit and he's confident as hell. Toney is better than Byrd. But ***** Wlad is opting to fight a man he already beat and in shady ass Germany.

yeah.......doesn't change the fact he is a blown up Super middleweight who can't hurt Wlad like you said.

Either way....Wlad's not a ***** Nash.

He fights just about everyone they put in front of him...and he said himself. He wants to fight anyone and everyone.

He's not scared of a damn thing. Even rematching Brewster.



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And for his legacy, which by his actions he doesn't seem to give a **** about, he should be going through this division as fast as possible. Making bouts and fighting people consistently. That's what I would do if I had his size, smarts and abilities. But no, he's carefully selecting opponents. Brewster was put down by Wlad and was near a KO. You can't tell that by Wlad's negotiations. Wlad sounds like a defeated man not demanding an instant rematch.

Wlad could say 20 years from now, "I beat all the top people in the heavyweight division." He can't say that. He doesn't give rematches to people that beat him and he's hand picking his opponents carefully.

Remember the controversy after Castillo-Mayweather I? People were saying Floyd lost. That was new territory to him. You know how Floyd handled it? He rematched the man in his next fight.

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So you're still buying that Vitali was injured FOUR times before the Rahman matchup?

Greg Leon at Btalk didn't buy it. He seriously was on Vitali' ass after the first withdrawal by Vitali.

The Fix also had Rahman winning.

yeah its kind of hard to get a big fight when you get knocked out in your previous fights.



Vitali's injury caused him to retire. There is nobody outside of you that thought Rahman would win that fight.



yeah.......doesn't change the fact he is a blown up Super middleweight who can't hurt Wlad like you said.

Either way....Wlad's not a ***** Nash.

He fights just about everyone they put in front of him...and he said himself. He wants to fight anyone and everyone.

He's not scared of a damn thing. Even rematching Brewster.