Mike Tyson: You don't know boxing if you think Mayweather > Pacquiao

[Adamjr91]

Nothing against that but there's a good reason why some people gets paid to talk and write their opinion. You may want to reconsider when it comes to certain individuals

Yes I understand that but boxing is so subjective. There are very few 'experts' out there that would influence my opinion on a fantasy fight.

Most people look at Pacquiao and just see the force of nature that he is, a non stop punching machine, speed power.

Tyson sees his skills, the footwork the angles he creates the feints his accuracy, a lot of these things get over looked

Tyson sees himself in Pacquiao.

BTW I only watched the first 10mins of that interview but it was pretty cool.

[D4thincarnation]

Yes I understand that but boxing is so subjective. There are very few 'experts' out there that would influence my opinion on a fantasy fight.



Tyson sees himself in Pacquiao.

BTW I only watched the first 10mins of that interview but it was pretty cool.

He had watched thousands of fights by then, not sure if this would have been showed in the US back then

[-Kev-]

Most people look at Pacquiao and just see the force of nature that he is, a non stop punching machine, speed power.

Tyson sees his skills, the footwork the angles he creates the feints his accuracy, a lot of these things get over looked

But this is only evident against come forward fighters.

I don't think Tyson knows much about Brandon Rios. He was talking about him in very high regard. You'd think he feels that Rios is better than Canelo, and that Mayweather beat a bum in his last fight and Pacquiao beat a future HOFer.

You look good, but against who? What type of competition? What type of advantages do you add in the contracts? Where are these fighters ranked? What did they do in their last fight?

[Adamjr91]

But this is only evident against come forward fighters.

I don't think Tyson knows much about Brandon Rios. He was talking about him in very high regard. You'd think he feels that Rios is better than Canelo, and that Mayweather beat a bum in his last fight and Pacquiao beat a future HOFer.

You look good, but against who? What type of competition? What type of advantages do you add in the contracts? Where are these fighters ranked? What did they do in their last fight?

Exactly. It is also only natural for a retired fighter to favour a fighter that fights in a similar style to his over a fighter who's style is a polar opposite.

[D4thincarnation]

Exactly. It is also only natural for a retired fighter to favour a fighter that fights in a similar to his over a fighter who's style is a polar opposite.

Tyson and Pacquiao don't have the same style.

[Adamjr91]

Tyson and Pacquiao don't have the same style.

Come on.. by similar style, I mean relative to the difference between Tyson-Mayweather.

[D4thincarnation]

Come on.. by similar style, I mean relative to the difference between Tyson-Mayweather.

There are more than two styles of boxing.

Mayweather and Tyson both have good head movement

[ButtScratcher^^]

It's subjective. But theory wise, mayweather > pacquiao. But in boxing nothing is certain; and if they don't fight that's nothing but just pure speculation.

We all know marquez isn't mayweather and styles makes fight. The big difference is volume of punches thrown when counter punching. It will be hard to defeat an elite like pacquiao if the punch ratio is 400:900 or 500:1100 which both of them are known to throw and very capable of. The hope for mayweather, is to be accurate enough or knockout pacquiao out, but this is pacquiao, a fellow ultra elite and is a very accurate fighter himself and a dynamic mover, very unpredictable inside the ring because he creates a lot of angles only he can see and create.

What marquez is literally doing there is just throw lots of counter punching, hoping for his chin to withstand manny's attacks and deliver his sharp counters. That's why they will always have a very close fight.

The danger for floyd is that there is no way of escaping a manny pacquiao fight unscathed, you will be in hell no matter what, whether you want it or not. Whether floyd will quick enough to dodge pacquiao's ultra fast combos remains to be seen, he hasn't fought someone with a combination of quickness, unpredictability of punches by using angles and furious combination with great accuracy.

All of these scenarios are pure speculation, and we will never have accurate result unless, we see them finally fight, remember both of these are ultra elites they are geniuses in the ring. Floyd defensively and Manny offensively. We will never know what adjustments they will be doing in the ring because only them are capable of it, not us, them, they are the geniuses of sweet science.

[Rip Chudd]

Who was it that said "jabs dont count in boxing"?

[-Kev-]

There are more than two styles of boxing.

Mayweather and Tyson both have good head movement

Tyson can relate more to Pac's style of fighting rather than Floyd's.

Tyson wasn't a counterpunching mover, no where near actually.