Comments Thread For: Photo: Mayweather Slams Pacquiao With Christmas Jab

[ironmt]

I didn't expect anything but a moronic response from you. You accept the fact that your boy Pac is so weak willed he defers only to his promoter but when someone takes control of their career and succeeds wildly there's an issue. Floyd's doing something right, while you idol will be chatting with Roy Jones and Evander Holyfield about how to maximize his profits long after he should have retired.

Yeh he's a "coward' and a very rich one at that......

Really no different then Floyd claiming to be his own boss and calling the shots then making the statement that his next opponent will be determined by who his team decides he should fight. I recall him specifically saying If they choose Khan, It's Khan and If they choose Pacquiao, It's Pacquiao,. So does Mayweather make his own decisions or Is he so weak willed that he defers to his team to make his decisions?

[HAY-B]

What a great way to keep the hype for this fight going. Based on the number of folks who have commented on this tread, Floyd has succeeded. By the time this fight takes place, half of the world will be watching.

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Really no different then Floyd claiming to be his own boss and calling the shots then making the statement that his next opponent will be determined by who his team decides he should fight. I recall him specifically saying If they choose Khan, It's Khan and If they choose Pacquiao, It's Pacquiao,. So does Mayweather make his own decisions or Is he so weak willed that he defers to his team to make his decisions?

If I were a Floyd fan I'd be honest enough to say he's a hypocrite. But then again, there are a lot of people who buy into what he says

[HAY-B]

What a great way to keep the hype for this fight going. Based on the number of folks who have commented on this tread, Floyd has succeeded. By the time this fight takes place, half of the world will be watching.

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What a great way to keep the hype for this fight going. Based on the number of folks who have commented on this tread, Floyd has succeeded. By the time this fight takes place, half of the world will be watching.

Yea, and reposting the same post helps

[DeadLikeMe]

If this is such an easy fight, and Pacquiao is still sleeping and not on Floyd's level, then why not make it happen? Easy work easy money easy fight correct? Testing isn't an issue, Manny is doing VADA while Floyd is yet to step outside of NSAC/USADA? Does Floyd even test with USADA?

Floyd does deserve the bigger portion of the purses if the fight does happen. So why not? Floyd fans don't want this fight for some reason.

****, the Mayweathers don't want this fight either. Well it seems Roger does, but Floyd Snr clearly doesn't want it.


Oh well Floyd throw the belt in the trash and fight Khan. When that PPV bombs we can wait for Showtime to hold your hand to the fire and then we will get a Pacquiao fight.

What do you mean testing isn't an issue? Do you think this VADA/USADA garbage would even exist if not for posturing by promotional companies? I don't care if VADA, USADA, or whoever else meets the WADA criteria does the testing, it is good enough for me. The USADA has collected over a hundred thousand samples from over a thousand Olympians. VADA was established explictly for boxing/MMA a few years ago. The question you should ask yourself is why are top figures in boxing pushing so hard for one rather than the other, when both meet all WADA standards.

[Slip Stream]

1. This is a boxing forum where fans can come and express their views on what's going on in the sport. Because someone has a different opinion than you doesn't automatically mean they're ranting. I, for one, just want to voice my opinion and hear the reasons for others'.

This is true, we all have the right to our opinions, very true but what we don't have is a right to our own facts. Many times Pacquiao's nut mollusks will come here to rant and rave about non-facts that are more closely associated with mindless emotionalism. So I shouldn't have lumped you in with the free roaming ******s but I would seriously rethink your logic in this matter.

2. Fair means fair, whether it's coming from a Floyd fan or a Pacquiao fan. This is where math comes in. See, the fighters should've arrived at a number that accurately reflects their PPV powers. $40 million FLAT would've been a bad deal from Pacquiao's end anyway you slice it. This is purely conjecture but I'll be very very conservative and say the fight would've sold 3 million BUYS. Let's say the price per buy would've been what it was for May/Canelo at $70. 3,000,000 X $70 = $210 million. After Floyd, Arum and GB get their cuts, Pacquiao, who was relatively close to Floyd in popularity doesn't get his fair shake.

No, the negotiations should accurately reflect where they are in the sport, at that time Manny wasn't at 50/50 I'm sorry but reality doesn't bear this out. Manny had one chance at 50/50 and his boss correctly conjectured it would be better to milk him over the long term. What Mayweather makes isn't the point bro, the point is Manny would have made more than he has ever made, period.

He turned down the offer, fine, no problem but look where he is now and you want to talk fair and simultaneously make it Mayweather's responsibility to give Manny what he wants? If he can't tell his own promoter what he wants why should he expect Mayweather to give him anything more?

3. You act like Manny should be grateful for $40 million because that's more than he's ever made. Guess what? That's also more than Floyd's ever made for a fight

No it isn't and I think you know that, stop dude. Yes Manny should be grateful or do you think he should just take his chances with Bob Arum and hope Bob pays his taxes, oops guess what?

4. Lastly, no one thinks Pacquiao should get more than Floyd. It wouldn't even be reasonable to make it 50-50. Hence, we arrive at what I've been saying all along:

30-40% would've been fair

Oh and yea, winner always gets more leverage in a rematch but this is boxing and anything can happen so neither Pacquiao nor Floyd would be strategic to bank on that

I disagree if Floyd lost to Pac, Pac would definitely have the upper hand in negotiations because Floyd would want to avenge that loss more than anything. You guys can get 50/50 out of your heads, its never going to happen and making pointless appeals on Manny's behalf won't change the reality on the ground. The reality on the ground is that Floyd is going to be calling the shots if this fight happens. I don't see what the big deal is, Manny's use to not thinking when it comes to negotiating so what should he care now?

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WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. added insult to injury by posting a photo, through his social networks, that ridicules former eight division world champion Manny Pacquiao.

The photo was a reminder that in early 2012 he called Pacquiao and offered him a $40 million dollar flat rate for a fight, which the Filipino star rejected. Pacquiao has since been knocked out cold by Juan Manuel Marquez, and there are claims that Pacquiao owes $68 million dollars in back tax to the United States and the Philippines.
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immature and crass. tells a lot about the psyche and upbringing of the man. classless.

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Really no different then Floyd claiming to be his own boss and calling the shots then making the statement that his next opponent will be determined by who his team decides he should fight. I recall him specifically saying If they choose Khan, It's Khan and If they choose Pacquiao, It's Pacquiao,. So does Mayweather make his own decisions or Is he so weak willed that he defers to his team to make his decisions?

You're not getting it bro, if two sides are needed for a negotiation to be successful why is it incumbent on only Floyd's side to negotiate? Why is the onus always placed upon Floyd while Arum (Pacquiao's brain) gets a free pass? I tell you why, because some fans are so shallow they get distracted by promotional gimmickry, half these folks that think Floyd is ducking are probably among the mentally challenged that thought "big time wrestling" was real too.

[AVDB]

This is true, we all have the right to our opinions, very true but what we don't have is a right to our own facts. Many times Pacquiao's nut mollusks will come here to rant and rave about non-facts that are more closely associated with mindless emotionalism. So I shouldn't have lumped you in with the free roaming ******s but I would seriously rethink your logic in this matter.



No, the negotiations should accurately reflect where they are in the sport, at that time Manny wasn't at 50/50 I'm sorry but reality doesn't bear this out. Manny had one chance at 50/50 and his boss correctly conjectured it would be better to milk him over the long term. What Mayweather makes isn't the point bro, the point is Manny would have made more than he has ever made, period.



He turned down the offer, fine, no problem but look where he is now and you want to talk fair and simultaneously make it Mayweather's responsibility to give Manny what he wants? If he can't tell his own promoter what he wants why should he expect Mayweather to give him anything more?



No it isn't and I think you know that, stop dude. Yes Manny should be grateful or do you think he should just take his chances with Bob Arum and hope Bob pays his taxes, oops guess what?



I offered if Floyd lost to Pac, Pac would definitely have the upper hand in negotiations because Floyd would want to avenge that loss more than anything. You guys can get 50/50 out of your heads, its never going to happen and making pointless appeals on Manny's behalf won't change the reality on the ground. The reality on the ground is that Floyd is going to be calling the shots if this fight happens. I don't see what the big deal is, Manny's use to not thinking when it comes to negotiating so what should he care now?

Wow, it'd take to long to dissect all your statement since you seem to keep generalizing and name calling. I have never ever ever said 50-50 should've happened, now or then. Yet, you keep writing 50-50. Shut up already with that. I said 30-40% based on their earning power. Also, yes Mayweather made the most he'd ever made for a fight when he fought Ortiz (which was $25mil). Floyd wasn't even making 40$ mil. Jesus, like you said, you can't argue with facts.

As for the bolded, duh.