Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd accepting a bad deal of gloves is his fault (it was a pussay move on Oscar's part, but at the same time Floyd is responsible because he accepted with no protest). That doesn't make it alright for Floyd to go around handing out bad deals to the fighters he's facing (Maidana for the 2nd time)..stuff like this isn't acceptable just because you were at the end of the bad deal once.

Stuff like this isn't hard to answer by any means...when it comes to gloves, let the commission do their job. It's as easy as right & wrong...there's no justifying the wrong in the sport.

I created a thread asking users to vote Yes/No for if they thought they were OK if this glove manipulation thing became a standard in all fights where A side picked the gloves for B side...you clearly voted for Yes.

I know its tough to answer-maybe you just don't think Floyd could beat fighters on a level playing field anymore which is why he makes unreasonable demands which are unheard of in the sport. Maybe you don't feel he has to. That's ok too.

I did vote yes and gave my reasons why. Respectfully, you will find not one of Floyd's requests has ever been original. Not glove choice, OST etc. NOTHING!!

As for glove choice specifically-I don't expect floyd to stop a practice that he himself was subjected to. As cotto told Martinez (paraphrasing)-you work to get to this spot so you can take advantage of it.

if you think this is so wrong-fine with me. Were you aware this happened a lot in the past?

[gamefrk]

I did vote yes and gave my reasons why. Respectfully, you will find not one of Floyd's requests has ever been original. Not glove choice, OST etc. NOTHING!!

As for glove choice specifically-I don't expect floyd to stop a practice that he himself was subjected to. As cotto told Martinez (paraphrasing)-you work to get to this spot so you can take advantage of it.

if you think this is so wrong-fine with me. Were you aware this happened a lot in the past?

Yes I do believe that playing commission & choosing the gloves for your opponent if wrong. Can't believe you actually support this.

Floyd should stop trying to make the world believe that he's trying to clean the sport when he himself pulls off stunts like these.

You clearly don't believe in having a level playing field.

[TMTForever]

boxing scene and manny are trying to make a buck off floyd's name..this is the same thing that happens everytime manny has a fight.
pac is fighting a no name guy and he might actually lose that fight..

[Aztekkas]

Hilarious...............

predicted?

Anyway, this whole Floyd vs Pacquiao drama movie is beyond stale now.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Hence the use of the word -RELATIVELY.

Floyd had never made $25 mil and no other chance to make that much. Manny, who is a FAR bigger ppv seller than floyd was in 2007, has no other chance to make $40 mil, with PPV. SO they are in the same relative position.

SO its simple-you can make more than you ever have, be dictated to in negotiations, have your gloves chosen for you, agree to it all and go out and win like floyd did with ODH OR you can refuse like Manny did with floyd.

There's no relativity there.

Floyd Mayweather was not much of a PPV attraction at all when he fought Oscar. He was forced to play a distant second fiddle in order to make himself a star.

Manny Pacquaio was routinely drawing over a million buys on PPV. He was already a star on his own. He didn't need to bow to such a ridiculous condition.

Not mentioning the fact that Oscar was well past his prime and semi-retired when Floyd fought him. A much different level of risk involved.

The disparity is not relative in this terrible comparison you've tried to draw. Only you and the rest of your ilk would try to use this logic.

[The Big Dunn]

Yes I do believe that playing commission & choosing the gloves for your opponent if wrong. Can't believe you actually support this.

Floyd should stop trying to make the world believe that he's trying to clean the sport when he himself pulls off stunts like these.

You clearly don't believe in having a level playing field.

If you feel that way, fine. Glove choice, as with any other advantage a sides use their power to negotiate, is a historical practice, not a floyd practice.

I've never suggested any asides, even the fighters I hate, give up the practice.

The fighters I like are good enough to win fights when the asides dictate to them. As such it's not an issue for me.

[The Big Dunn]

There's no relativity there.

Floyd Mayweather was not much of a PPV attraction at all when he fought Oscar. He was forced to play a distant second fiddle in order to make himself a star.

Manny Pacquaio was routinely drawing over a million buys on PPV. He was already a star on his own. He didn't need to bow to such a ridiculous condition.

Not mentioning the fact that Oscar was well past his prime and semi-retired when Floyd fought him. A much different level of risk involved.

The disparity is not relative in this terrible comparison you've tried to draw. Only you and the rest of your ilk would try to use this logic.

Routinely? And for that, he was getting the largest guarantee an opponent ever got in the history of the sport to my knowledge.

If he wanted the fight he had to bow because he refused the 50/50 split.

Again, context. Manny did this to himself. Why would anyone expect floyd to offer as good or a better deal now when his position has increased and manny's declined?

Should've taken the best deal when it was offered.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Routinely? And for that, he was getting the largest guarantee an opponent ever got in the history of the sport to my knowledge.

If he wanted the fight he had to bow because he refused the 50/50 split.

Again, context. Manny did this to himself. Why would anyone expect floyd to offer as good or a better deal now when his position has increased and manny's declined?

Should've taken the best deal when it was offered.

Once again, only you and your ilk would look at it from that perspective.

Pacquaio was going to take none of the PPV revenue from a fight that could generate hundreds of millions of dollars?

Think about that for a second. It's ***ing absurd.

[GOD-FR33]

It's about time........

It's about time someone other than me, make these vivid points about the fight. Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny for more than one reason. He is a selfish, arrogant, loud mouth fighter with skills. That's all he is. Is he really all that special? Based on what? out-classing fighters he should out-class? Smh. Manny's legacy was set before he even saved boxing by going on that historic run at welterweight. Where was Floyd then? Ducking as usual. At the time he made that silly offer of 40million to Manny, Manny was the number 1 draw in the sport, PERIOD. It should've been 50/50 with even splits on the backend. But not Floyd. He's a control freak ******* who has to control and bully everything and everyone. Last time I checked, you don't bully Manny Pacquiao and that's why Floyd hates him so much. He KNOWS the jeopardy he'd be in in a fight against him. Manny is a better athelete. He's faster of hand and foot, and he has crazy stamina. The angles he punches from and on top of all of that, he's a southpaw. That's why this fight never happened. It's Floyd's fault, not Manny's. First it was drug-testing. Then it was Bob Arum. Then it was avenge losses. Then it was( fill in the excuse). Now what's his excuse??????????

[PAC-BOY]