Floyd Mayweather Jr vs. Manny Pacquiao Master Discussion Thread

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  • fighter1234
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    #671
    Accomplished what? Most of Pacquiao's recent championships were for vacant belts, which is significantly different than beating a champion for them. North of 140lb, Pacquiao is a product of careful matchmaking and manipulation by Bob Arum-much more than Floyd Mayweather...but of course you'll never believe that. Floyd is the cherry picker right?

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    • olio626
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      #672
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Mayweather never was going to fight him at any time. He won't fight him now and he would not have fought him 4 or 5 years ago either. So I voted Pacquiao knocks him out because it would be a great character builder for Floyd at this particular time. Absolutely. The thing is this. Floyd needs some humility.
      I concur. While Floyd may have superior defensive skills but - he can never be too sure of himself if he could handle the kind of whirlwind performance that Pac delivers - hitting from all angles and with blazing speed. On top of this, he is a southpaw and can hit hard with both hands. Name me a fighter from junior to super welterweight who moves and hits with the speed and angles of Pacquiao - that would be a Maybeater. In fact, try to find someone from mini-fly to heavyweight who moves that way! Unfortunately there is only Manny. Floyd has his Broner and other wannabes. They can copy his style. In fact, Rigondeaux could theoretically be much better than Mayweather as a defensive hitter. But name me someone who can copy Manny's style exactly? Nada.

      Besides, Pac would surely be doubly motivated if his opponent is Floyd - and will most likely put aside all distractions - his biggest weakness - if ever the fight comes along.

      Style makes fight. And for Floydie, this is a style he cannot be 100% sure of. In fact it is a style he cannot be 50% sure of. That's why he's not taking it ever.

      Not for any reason. Not drug-testing, not money, not fame, not pride.

      Manny by TKO - ala-Oscar dela Hoya.

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      • olio626
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        #673
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        Mayweather never was going to fight him at any time. He won't fight him now and he would not have fought him 4 or 5 years ago either. So I voted Pacquiao knocks him out because it would be a great character builder for Floyd at this particular time. Absolutely. The thing is this. Floyd needs some humility.
        I concur. While Floyd may have superior defensive skills but - he can never be too sure of himself if he could handle the kind of whirlwind performance that Pac delivers - hitting from all angles and with blazing speed. On top of this, he is a southpaw and can hit hard with both hands. Name me a fighter from junior to super welterweight who moves and hits with the speed and angles of Pacquiao - that would be a Maybeater. In fact, try to find someone from mini-fly to heavyweight who moves that way! Unfortunately there is only Manny. Floyd has his Broner and other wannabes. They can copy his style. In fact, Rigondeaux could theoretically be much better than Mayweather as a defensive hitter. But name me someone who can copy Manny's style exactly? Nada.

        Besides, Pac would surely be doubly motivated if his opponent is Floyd - and will most likely put aside all distractions - his biggest weakness - if ever the fight comes along.

        Style makes fights. And for Floydie, this is a style he cannot be 100% sure of. In fact it is a style he cannot be 50% sure of. That's why he's not taking it ever.

        Not for any reason. Not drug-testing, not money, not fame, not pride.

        Manny by TKO - ala-Oscar dela Hoya.

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        • fighter1234
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          #674
          Originally posted by olio626
          Floyd has his Broner and other wannabes. They can copy his style. In fact, Rigondeaux could theoretically be much better than Mayweather as a defensive hitter. But name me someone who can copy Manny's style exactly? Nada.
          You're right, it's hard to find someone who could get knocked the f*** out like Manny Pacquiao. What an incredible style indeed.

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          • Weltschmerz
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            #675
            Originally posted by olio626
            I concur. While Floyd may have superior defensive skills but - he can never be too sure of himself if he could handle the kind of whirlwind performance that Pac delivers - hitting from all angles and with blazing speed. On top of this, he is a southpaw and can hit hard with both hands. Name me a fighter from junior to super welterweight who moves and hits with the speed and angles of Pacquiao - that would be a Maybeater. In fact, try to find someone from mini-fly to heavyweight who moves that way! Unfortunately there is only Manny. Floyd has his Broner and other wannabes. They can copy his style. In fact, Rigondeaux could theoretically be much better than Mayweather as a defensive hitter. But name me someone who can copy Manny's style exactly? Nada.

            Besides, Pac would surely be doubly motivated if his opponent is Floyd - and will most likely put aside all distractions - his biggest weakness - if ever the fight comes along.

            Style makes fights. And for Floydie, this is a style he cannot be 100% sure of. In fact it is a style he cannot be 50% sure of. That's why he's not taking it ever.

            Not for any reason. Not drug-testing, not money, not fame, not pride.

            Manny by TKO - ala-Oscar dela Hoya.
            Rigo ranks higher than Floyd, p4p.

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            • Marvellous1
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              #676
              Originally posted by Weltschmerz
              Rigo ranks higher than Floyd, p4p.
              Of course he does. Rigo is a masterful boxer but his pro career body of work is as close as you are to a mensa member's intellect.
              Last edited by Marvellous1; 02-24-2014, 07:20 AM.

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              • Kuyukut
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                #677

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                • L3TH4L
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                  #678
                  I'm fed up with this discussion. These two need to put their egos aside and fight already. Mayweather's record is lacking a Joe Frazier and Pacquiao could have been that guy.

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                  • Reginald Ledoux
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                    #679
                    Pac woops Floyd

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                    • Reginald Ledoux
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                      #680
                      Would Floyd even get credit for beating PacMan now?


                      He's ducked him for years!

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