Based on his recent comments is Floyd ducking Manny?

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

With Mayweater it was easy.

With Pacquiao it was very complicated, the fight actually fell off. Pacquiao wanted a bigger split than what Mayweather got for DLH.

And the reason why DLH made the Pac fight is because GBP and TR still worked together in 2008 and even early 2009(Pacquiao-Hatton). Also, DLH was not advised by Haymon. Since then, you'd be hard pressed to find any GBP vs TR fights. It's not a Mayweather-Arum thing, it is now a full blown Schaefer/DLH/Haymon/Mayweather vs Arum/TR/HBO thing. Which is why we would never see fights like Garcia vs Bradley, Matthysse-Provodnikov, Thurman-Rios etc. When people realize this, how bg the feud is, and stop acting like it's strictly a Mayweather thing, they will stop b-tching about who's fault it is.

And you know that because Floyd told you so? Stop living through Floyd.

[-Kev-]

Bull****. When Floyd refused to fight Cotto in 2008 it was because Cotto was not big enough. No mention of Arum there.

Pacquiao could leave Arum and Floyd would still make money an issue. I foresee a legendary low ball offer that Pac will surely refuse.

If you were not around, don't talk.

Mayweather said on ESPN when asked about Cotto in 2008, that Cotto was not big enough, AND that Haymon and Arum "don't see eye to eye" on things.

[oneon11]

Pacroid keep getting the benefit of those who hate Floyd. All people ever focus on is Floyd. Ask yourselves, when was there ever a crew in Manny's camp constantly asking him about Floyd? You never hear writer's hounding Manny about this fight, but when he had the opportunity to leave TOP RANK and male this fight happen he didn't. Manny is dumb, but he's not really all that ******. He knew any testing done outside of the crew Bob had previously been paying for would have exposed him for what he is............

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

I know where Floyd is coming, I understand his attitude towards TR fighters are only to be spiteful against Arum, and him not wanting to fight any TR fighter is to be spiteful against Arum. Floyd hates the guy and would never work with him and doesn't want him earning a penny from him. That's why he has that attitude when asked about Pacquiao. If Pac was not a TR fighter, he'd give Pac nothing but praise. In fact he had nothing but praise for Pacquiao back in the day when he was in TR.

People think it's ducking, but it really goes beyond anything about Pac or his accomplishments. Deep inside Floyd respects him and knows what Pac has done deserves praise. But just to be spiteful against Arum he won't fight Pac under TR, and he won't praise Pacquiao while he's under TR.

If you take off your troll goggles, you'd agree with what I am saying.

You're right. Floyd hates Arum too much he spewed out every hateful word against Pacquiao. Arum probably cried his **** out watching this.


If you just kept away from the Floyd kool aid, you probably would agree with me.

[-Kev-]

Lol you can debate all you want, "Floyd is scared", "Floyd ducking", etc. In the end, if you have been following boxing before 2008 when Pacquiao got popular, you'd know that May-Pac not happening goes beyond Mayweather and Pacquiao. I'll leave it at that and you can keep debating on why Floyd doesn't fight Top Rank fighters. He's afraid, a chicken, coward, etc. Let them out of Top Rank and he fights them, simple as that. Keep debating and buying those Floyd PPV's.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Lol you can debate all you want, "Floyd is scared", "Floyd ducking", etc. In the end, if you have been following boxing before 2008 when Pacquiao got popular, you'd know that May-Pac not happening goes beyond Mayweather and Pacquiao. I'll leave it at that and you can keep debating on why Floyd doesn't fight Top Rank fighters. He's afraid, a chicken, coward, etc. Let them out of Top Rank and he fights them, simple as that. Keep debating and buying those Floyd PPV's.

Sweetie, I've been following boxing since before you were born. The big fights, between the biggest fighters, get made. Period point blank. Never, has boxing ever seen one of its biggest names make so many excuses as to why the fight cannot happen. Rival promoters have been working together for decades, long before any of us were alive. Suddenly, it can't be done. FOH.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Where do I "admit" it is Floyd's fault?

Arum and Floyd had a falling out in 2006, over Arum not wanting to make the De La Hoya fight. Floyd bought his contract out in a bitter breakup with TR and never again worked with Arum because he aw how of a snake Arum was.

You mean the snake who made him a millionaire and matched him good enough to get a perfect record?

That snake? Why sign with the guy in the first place if hes such a snake? The family was around boxing for decades before. They knew who Arum was, and they still signed with him. But now, hes a snake?

[Beercules]

Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing stopped the Baldomir Guerrero Ortiz fights from happening, but Manny comes around and every road block is put up.


Isn't Floyd his own boss? Floyd is using the arum excuse and throwing in a couple more. I don't care about belts, manny needs to knock out Bradley fight Ghost and Canelo.

If Floyd wanted to fight Manny, it would've happened by now. But he uses Arum as a convinent excuse and Floyd fans soak it up.

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

If you were not around, don't talk.

Mayweather said on ESPN when asked about Cotto in 2008, that Cotto was not big enough, AND that Haymon and Arum "don't see eye to eye" on things.

Mayweather always proclaims in interviews he is his own boss. What the hell does Haymon have to do with Floyd's fights then? Either he is or isn't. My memory's fresh, he never made Arum an excuse not to fight Cotto during that time.

[stormfroe]

You're right. Floyd hates Arum too much he spewed out every hateful word against Pacquiao. Arum probably cried his **** out watching this.


If you just kept away from the Floyd kool aid, you probably would agree with me.

i wish everytime there is a floyd thread this video is always embedded. those words cant be possibly used just to spite TR or Arum. thats some deep hate caused by something.