HBO Sports President Talks Rigondeaux

[DannYankee]

He just needs to keep winning and reach the point where people will watch to see him lose.

That only happens with azzholes tho Rigondeaux is not the type to pretend or act up a persona.... he is in there just to beat the best and prove he is the best unfortunately boxing is not about that anymore not at it's core whoever says otherwise is a naive fool.

[Redd Foxx]

That's disappointing from HBO. After all Boxing has done for HBO sports, they still want to take the cheap route. No loyalty, no honor.

Rigo is clearly a Master of the Sweet Science, and his skills should be celebrated. Maybe if they Promoted him the way they Promoted Andre Berto, he would get more attention.

At the end of the day, Boxing is the sport that I love, and Rigondeaux is a master of it, so I will always watch him fight.

Money isn't everything, and I lost loyalty and respect for HBO today, because they have shown none to my sport.

Weak argument. You can't run a business with that kind of logic. Example, my dad has been called one of the best fishermen in the western US. He's been on TV a few times but that's all that market would support. I sure as hell don't feel that the outdoor channel owes him a damn thing just because he's the best at his sport. The only reason boxing is on HBO is for entertainment. If he's not entertaining, he doesn't belong there. As the man said, the fans voted with their viewership.

[ElMeroChingon]

Well he's boring and in the smaller weights, why do people seem dissapointed on HBO? They did their job.

[DoktorSleepless]

Who the hell is Chris Avalos?

WBO #1 contender, this could be an ESPN bout for Rigo.

He's a young come forward high output Mexican-American that should have made Rigo look spectacular, and ranked at #4 in boxrec for whatever that's worth. If you need an opponent to make Rigo look like a beast, this guy would be it. In a Manny undercard, he would have more potential viewers than whatever stuck around to watch him fight on regular HBO. And because it's PPV, that's $350k coming out of Arum's own pocket, not HBO. How in the world does that fit in a conspiracy where Arum is purposely trying to make Rigo look bad? Arum doesn't have any special knowledge about Agbeko that Rigo's dozen other managers couldn't have foreseen. If Rigo's people wanted him to look like an exciting fighter, they could have easily taken the Avalos fight.

[CubanGuyNYC]

He's a young come forward high output Mexican-American that should have made Rigo look spectacular, and ranked at #4 in boxrec for whatever that's worth. If you need an opponent to make Rigo look like a beast, this guy would be it. In a Manny undercard, he would have more potential viewers than whatever stuck around to watch him fight on regular HBO. And because it's PPV, that's $350k coming out of Arum's own pocket, not HBO. How in the world does that fit in a conspiracy where Arum is purposely trying to make Rigo look bad? Arum doesn't have any special knowledge about Agbeko that Rigo's dozen other managers couldn't have foreseen. If Rigo's people wanted him to look like an exciting fighter, they could have easily taken the Avalos fight.

When I heard Guillermo turned down a fight with Avalos on the Pac undercard because it offered "only" 350k, I was disappointed. I get that Rigo wanted to maintain his stock price, but I think he was missing the forest for the trees. It's just my opinion, but I think that exposure on Manny's show in Macau was worth something going forward.

Guillermo is a great fighter and seems like a decent guy, but he's clearly not the most sophisticated businessman. The same could be said about Gamboa, and look where he's at.

[2501]

It is whatever we say it is.

However we conduct ourselves is what will be. If you choose to have no honor then there will be none, if you choose to uphold it, then it will be so.

My point is, Boxing has done a lot for HBO, and there are things more important than money. In every other sport, the best are celebrated, no matter how much money they draw, because if you're a fan of the sport, then you have to recognize the best.

What you fail to realize is that the average HBO subscriber isn't a die hard fan of the sport like you and I. Where we see brilliance, they see boring. You can explain a million times to a casual fan what makes Rigo amazing to watch, but it would be pointless because they do not share the same interest in the sport as you and I do.

HBO HAS tried to showcase Rigo, but his fighting style just doesn't sell. HBO has done what it can to get people interested. It's just not going to happen.

Do you honestly think Floyd would be where he is right now if he wasn't a loud mouth and American? That's the difference between Floyd and Rigo. Floyd sells the fights outside of the ring. Rigo is not Mayorga. It's just not in Rigo's personality to sell fights like that.

Casual fans want to see action. That is why fighters like GGG (who aren't Mexican and barely speak english) have prime spots on HBO. They give fans what they want to see.

[-Kev-]

I made an advanced search. In "search by user name," I put -Kev-, and I searched for Agbeko. Nothing turned up. Then I manually searched for all the announcement threads (and more) made by both boxingscene and regular users, and nothing turned up.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613598

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=612055&highlight=agbeko

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613564&highlight=agbeko

If Bob Arum was purposely trying to mach him up to fail, then please explain the Chris Avalos offer.


What does this have to do with anything? If you want to talk about that, I responded to your post already.

So wait a minute, you mean to tell me that the only threads one can post in is "Comments Thread For". You mean to tell me posters didn't make their own threads and I posted in them?

Keep taking time out of your day to search for my posts, do the leg work for me. I made a post about it, i'm telling you. Keep looking.

[-Kev-]

When I heard Guillermo turned down a fight with Avalos on the Pac undercard because it offered "only" 350k, I was disappointed. I get that Rigo wanted to maintain his stock price, but I think he was missing the forest for the trees. It's just my opinion, but I think that exposure on Manny's show in Macau was worth something going forward.

Guillermo is a great fighter and seems like a decent guy, but he's clearly not the most sophisticated businessman. The same could be said about Gamboa, and look where he's at.

But, (and "nobody" is relative), nobody knows who the heck Avalos is. I sure as hell didn't, my dad didn't, my friends won't know. And a lot more people that care to admit, didn't know who he was.

In fact, I still don't know who he is, what he looks like, how he fights, nothing, and, haven't even bothered to know who he is, and don't even want to know who he is. And maybe Rigondeaux was concerned about this, fighting such an unknown while being so old with such few fights, maybe he wants nothing to do with unknowns at this point of his career.

[DoktorSleepless]

You mean to tell me posters didn't make their own threads and I posted in them?

Then I manually searched for all the announcement threads (and more) made by both boxingscene and regular users

Okay, whatever. I get it. It doesn't exist.

[CubanGuyNYC]

But, (and "nobody" is relative), nobody knows who the heck Avalos is. I sure as hell didn't, my dad didn't, my friends won't know. And a lot more people that care to admit, didn't know who he was.

In fact, I still don't know who he is, what he looks like, how he fights, nothing, and, haven't even bothered to know who he is, and don't even want to know who he is. And maybe Rigondeaux was concerned about this, fighting such an unknown while being so old with such few fights, maybe he wants nothing to do with unknowns at this point of his career.

I hadn't considered this possibility. I don't know if it matters that much, but it is a consideration. As it turns out, Rigo got his co-main event status in AC... but it turned out horribly.

Avalos was unknown to me, too. It just struck me as a good move to fight on a Pacquiao PPV. Whatever Guillermo's thinking was, sometimes you've got to take a step back to take two forward.