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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #761
    Originally posted by Marvellous1
    Are there any other sports where winning isn't enough? Sport IS about winning and losing, right? Is this the case with boxing? I'm not Guillermo Rigondeaux's situation applies.
    Not sure about the point you're trying to make.

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    • Slip Stream
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      #762
      Originally posted by TAKE THE TEST!!
      The fact that you can't answer, shows you have no clue about what you're talking about.

      Boxing is a sport with a business side. People tune in to see sporting action, not count the participants monies. If a fighter wants to fight someone bad enough, he gets it done without excuses, and thats the bottom line.

      The bottom line obviously isn't important enough to "Money". Hes refusing his biggest payday ever because "he won't do business with Bob Arum".

      GTFOH.
      Some of what you're saying is the exact same thing I am but you're trying to claim its different. What that shows me is you don't care the least bit about facts, but keep on keepin on yo. You act as if the business side is minimal, it isn't its paramount or no one would make any money in the sport. Fans crave the sports side naturally but are utterly oblivious as to what makes a fight happen or what finances the sport.

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      • Marvellous1
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        #763
        Originally posted by TAKE THE TEST!!
        The fact that you can't answer, shows you have no clue about what you're talking about.

        Boxing is a sport with a business side. People tune in to see sporting action, not count the participants monies. If a fighter wants to fight someone bad enough, he gets it done without excuses, and thats the bottom line.

        The bottom line obviously isn't important enough to "Money". Hes refusing his biggest payday ever because "he won't do business with Bob Arum".

        GTFOH.
        I don't know all the details, but from what I've read, Mayweather left Top Rank believing he was still owed money. Didn't they go to court over it? I guess there are some that won't go out of their to do business with someone they think cheated them, especially when that person is going to make millions out of them again. Mayweather went so far as to try and it didn't work. With the deal he's got now, he probably feels he doesn't need Arum. The fact that he hasn't fought a single fighter under Arum lends weight to this. If he had, it would make it obvious that the problem was Pacquiao. But the ease with which the Cotto fight was made once a free agent lends more weight to what I speculate.

        Don't get me wrong. I think it sucks because Mayweather's acting like a diva and we don't get the fight.

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        • Marvellous1
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          #764
          Originally posted by TAKE THE TEST!!
          Not sure about the point you're trying to make.
          My point is, that sports is based on winning and losing. The winner gets the prize and moneythat goes with it. You can only be the best if you win a league our a tournament. This may have been the case with boxing once, but not anymore. Do title shots go to the number one contender all the time? Does a fighter only become the number one contender by beating top fighters in his division? Does the champion always make more money than the challenger? Is merely winning fights enough for success?

          Answering these questions honestly should tell you how much of a "sport" boxing is. Like you, and most here, I love watching boxing in most of the ways it comes, but don't fool myself that it's a sport like others and everything's fair.

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          • Ringlife
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            #765
            Pac needs to fight the last year in his contract with Top Rank then become a free agent. He needs to get rid of his adviser who pretty much works for Bob Arum. Not just to make this Mayweather vs Pac fight but Manny needs to be smart and try something new like Mayweather and Cotto. Become his own boss.

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #766
              Originally posted by Marvellous1
              My point is, that sports is based on winning and losing. The winner gets the prize and moneythat goes with it. You can only be the best if you win a league our a tournament. This may have been the case with boxing once, but not anymore. Do title shots go to the number one contender all the time? Does a fighter only become the number one contender by beating top fighters in his division? Does the champion always make more money than the challenger? Is merely winning fights enough for success?

              Answering these questions honestly should tell you how much of a "sport" boxing is. Like you, and most here, I love watching boxing in most of the ways it comes, but don't fool myself that it's a sport like others and everything's fair.

              If Rafael Nadal, went a whole year unbeaten, but refused to play in any tournament with Novak Djovkovic would still be considered the best?

              As in any sport, you have to compete against the best to prove you are the best, if you do not do this and further more deliberately avoid your toughest peers you have not proven that you are the best.


              Floyd should be ranked alongside the Sven Ottke's of this world

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              • Stl_Buay
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                #767
                Originally posted by Ringlife
                Pac needs to fight the last year in his contract with Top Rank then become a free agent. He needs to get rid of his adviser who pretty much works for Bob Arum. Not just to make this Mayweather vs Pac fight but Manny needs to be smart and try something new like Mayweather and Cotto. Become his own boss.
                Manny is his own boss and every fighter is their own boss... Sports Agents and Talent Agents are not the bosses of the people who hire them to negociate on their behalf for a percentage... *****s need to STOP REPEATING FLOYD'S B.S. if that's the case Golden Boy is Floyd's boss, why do you think you see Schafer and Golden Boy at Mayweather fights????? Golden Boy is Floyd's promoter, who do you think promotes his fights??? Floyd signs 1 fight contracts but its industry standard he ask for a higher percentage and etc... But WHO CARES, you guys are not boxing fans this is new Gayweather stuff... Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Benitez, Sanchez, Trinidad, De La Hoya, Tyson, Jones, Mosley, and etc. etc. didn't have all this who is who promoter and what percentage they get crap blocking fights.... Pac need to do what they hell he wants to do and Floyd should mind his damn business and stop acting like Jinkee trying to control Pacs business... Tyson and Lewis had different promoters, so did De La Hoya and Trinidad, so did De La Hoya and Pacquiao, so did Leonard and Duran, so did Hearns and Hagler, so did Hagler and Leonarnd, so did Duran and Hagler and etc. etc. Boxing will be so much better when the feather fisted one is gone... BTW Rocky Marciano was 49-0 with 43 KOs Floyd will never match that KO% even if he goes 50-0 with 26 KOs, so by Floyd's standards Marciano is the G.A.O.T. and why is Floyd telling Broner to move forward according to Floyd one loss and your career is over...
                Last edited by Stl_Buay; 12-21-2013, 07:09 PM.

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                • WESS
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                  #768
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  If Rafael Nadal, went a whole year unbeaten, but refused to play in any tournament with Novak Djovkovic would still be considered the best?

                  As in any sport, you have to compete against the best to prove you are the best, if you do not do this and further more deliberately avoid your toughest peers you have not proven that you are the best.


                  Floyd should be ranked alongside the Sven Ottke's of this world
                  Just **** all over Pac's career since 2009 (and you don't even know it).

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                  • D4thincarnation
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                    #769
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    Just **** all over Pac's career since 2009 (and you don't even know it).
                    Top 4 welters in Jan 2009

                    Margaritto
                    Cotto
                    Mosely
                    Clottey

                    Pacquiao staring from late 2009 beat them all in a 18 month period.

                    Deal with it.

                    Last time time Floyd step up was against Corrales, and that was weight drained mentally f****** Corrales of to the big house.


                    Ottke = Mayweather

                    Both unbeaten champs

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                    • SlyRaccoon
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                      #770
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Why is Mayweather so concerned if Arum is ripping off Pacquiao? How does it personally affect him I wonder
                      He claims Arum owes him millions, basically in his two PPV fights with Gatti and the other one being Judah.

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