Mayweather has grown on me

[THE TALK OF TX]

Only the simple minded and uneducated judge the surface and then proceed to attack without any factual information in return. I do not expect everyone here to be an intellectually orientated poster so I can't blame you.

Fact is, being an own boss doesn't require from two other bosses in order to come to decisions. He claimed it was all up to him at one point, now he claims it depends on his team which include the head chiefs at GB Promotions.

Last time I heard Golden boy always say they have to talk to floyd about getting a fight made floyd talk to his management team golden boy just helps with the promotion side. But yeah floyd has fought good level fighters just as good as any other boxers in this era has if any one dare say manny has fought better is a ****ing lie cause he have fought some of the same fighter floyd got criticized for and most after floyd. The Hate gotta stop guys yall know as well as anyone else floyd is the best boxing hws to offer.

[kej718]

The Ring*Lineal Championship*Titles:
Lineal*Super Featherweight*Champion*(130*lbs)
The Ring*Lightweight Champion*(135*lbs)
The Ring*Welterweight Champion*(147*lbs)
The Ring*Jr. Middleweight Champion*(154*lbs)

He beat the 140lb champ Rickey Hatton at 147lb, so he pretty much beat the #1 guy in every other weight division. Its not his fault all the big name fighters were ducking him before he became a PPV star.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIB8be86w4

[straightleft]

I admire Floyd cherry picking skills.

Ducked Oscar rematch $$$ because he barely won.
Dragged Haton 140 to 147.
Dragged Marquez to 144 then came overweight.
Faked his retirement to duck prime Margarito and prime Cotto then fought them after a decade later.
Sucker punched Ortiz.
Guerrero who?
He weight drained Canelo.
Now he is fighting Khan. WTF

[straightleft]

I admire Floyd cherry picking skills.

Ducked Oscar rematch $$$ because he barely won.
Dragged Haton to 147.
Dragged Marquez to 144 then came overweight.
Faked his retirement to duck prime Margarito and prime Cotto then fought them after a decade later.
Sucker punched Ortiz.
Guerrero who?
He weight drained Canelo.
Now he is fighting Khan. WTF

[techliam]

The Ring*Lineal Championship*Titles:
Lineal*Super Featherweight*Champion*(130*lbs)
The Ring*Lightweight Champion*(135*lbs)
The Ring*Welterweight Champion*(147*lbs)
The Ring*Jr. Middleweight Champion*(154*lbs)

He beat the 140lb champ Rickey Hatton at 147lb, so he pretty much beat the #1 guy in every other weight division. Its not his fault all the big name fighters were ducking him before he became a PPV star.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIB8be86w4

Lets not pretend the RING is the same as a lineal championship. The RING belt is garbage in todays boxing world.

[BoxingWave]

i agree, i used to be one of guys that just thought floyd cherry picks his fights even though i was a fan of his talent. the older and wiser he gets the more i respect him. he's definitely one of the greatest regardless if he loses

[Bravado]

Floyd is too good, for his own good. He has to retire and be gone for years to get that respect

[kej718]

Lets not pretend the RING is the same as a lineal championship. The RING belt is garbage in today's boxing world.

This is why he should just cash out and fight guys like Khan (biggest money fights) No matter what he does he will be discredited. He has been at the top of the sport for 17 years. Look at his last 10 opponents and tell me who has a better list of fighters they have beaten.

[GOD-FR33]

So.

"and lol @ drinking water even before the weigh-in. I think that may take away the point of dehydrating"

He weighed in at 153 against Trout. So what! This means you aren't being fair and backing a fighter who doesn't like catch-weights. Smh. Canelo was partly drained, PERIOD. That win meant absolutely nothing just like the wins against Ortiz, The Ghost, Marquez, etc. He is a bully and con-artist who will soon LOSE. Karma loves to pay those back who underestimate it. Anyway, there isn't a fight left for Floyd or Manny but each other. If they don't fight in May, Floyd should most definitely retire because he doesn't have four fights left in his 37 year old body. He'll end up losing to a lesser fighter. WATCH. His place in history will be a mere HOF'mer and that's it. He missed his chance to be an ATG, long ago.

[Calabis]

mayweather got a 10 million guarantee to fight hoya. you think 140 pound cotto was worth the same? it's called pricing yourself out buddy.

No its called Bob Arum not wanting the fight to happen....back in 2005/06 he said Cotto was not ready and he needed to be built up more, he wanted it built up like the Leonard/Duran fight(let me know if u want link)

Here is case you need facts:

The announcement of welterweight WBC champion Floyd Mayweather taking on World Boxing Association (WBA) junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto was of no shock to me. These two have a history together. And it’s a fight that should have taken place years ago.

Contrary to popular belief that Mayweather ducked Cotto, it was two words that kept this fight from happening; Bob Arum. In 2006 Floyd Mayweather was set to face Antonio Margarito on August 12th of that year for 8 million dollars. Arum said Mayweather had no problem facing Margarito, but he wanted a 10 million dollar guarantee to fight Cotto and Ricky Hatton. The problem came when Arum only offered him 7 million.

Instead Mayweather bought out his contract for 750,000 dollars and took over his own career. I can’t really blame Mayweather for making this move. Why fight for 8 million and then take a pay cut in his next bout? Mayweather was set to fight Cotto after Mayweather took apart Arturo Gatti. But it was Arum who said it was too soon and he needed to build up the fight some more.

According to Mayweather, the fight was supposed to take place after the Henry Bruseles fight whom he took apart in eight rounds. Bruseles was a “test” fight to see how Mayweather would fare against Cotto. It is also note worthy that Cotto was Bruseles’s lead sparring partner.

From ESPN article:

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."


So with Arum saying he would have fought Margarito.....let's just discount that...Arum did not want to give him 10 mil for Hatton/Cotto after Marg fight. According to u, he priced himself out.....please tell me what Mayweather ended up earning against DLH/Cotto and Hatton? I'll wait.