Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Open For Rigondeaux, Gradovich Clashes

[bojangles1987]

Lomachenko better make sure he's ready for Salido. I still can't believe that fight is happening.

[Foreign Soil]

what a crap comment............we're talking about rigo vs lamo (their situation) not "lower weight guys moving up" thats too much of a general statement. rigo is a 5'3 tiny guy (already small at 122) whats wrong with lamo fighting him at 124 catch weight? or even at his weight class considering that rigo is the champ..........& your argument to that is "lamo has more pull" wtf hahaha even thats a load of crap. & not only that but boxing fans (real ones) don't give a **** about pull. it's all about the talent thats in front of you & how good of a resume you got. we leave "pull" up to the promoters...........heres the simple fact. lamachenko has no intentions of fighting rgio (because he would get his head knocked off) and the weight thing is just a smoke screen..........

no use in even debating it.........

You're getting bent out of shape over something I didn't even use in my original post and I did that for a reason. Someone replied to my post and started using the pull argument, something I don't like to begin with. Secondly, Loma just turned pro and is fighting Salido next - how the **** does he already have this many people *****ing already? That must be a world record. Lastly, I hate catchweights in this watered down era. I don't know the history between the two, but is Rigo calling him out or just fans making noise?

[PeterNeversoft]

Hope Lomachenko is not over-looking Salido and I doubt he is...

This really is a crazy fight to take as your 2nd pro bout. Amazing!

[ddangerous]

Rigo is chinny man. He is either going to outbox everyone he faces wide for the rest of his career or get starched by a puncher in tremendously comical fashion.

My thoughts exactly. Rigo is an outstanding boxer, but I believe he will eventually be KO'd.

[newcastleking]

If Lomachenko gets into a trade with Salido its a wrap. Forget about it.

[doom_specialist]

Lol... Lomo is already more popular than Rigo. Rigo has no pull, if you want to go that route. Same with Ward - no popularity. That aspect doesn't even need to be brought up. Cutting weight is harder than moving up as the guy moving up simply has to cut less weight than he's already doing.

Where did the popularity argument come from? I asked about credentials, not ticket sales. Lomachenko has one pro fight, and Golovkin's résumé is nowhere near Andre Ward's. Rigondeaux and Ward are considered to be 2 of the top 5 best boxers on the planet, and shouldn't have to bend in negotiations to the 2 potential challengers mentioned previously, regardless of their ability to draw.

In regards to your comment that I replied to originally, I would indeed complain if Andre Ward or Guillermo Rigondeaux were made to bend to the demands of boxers with less than a quarter of their résumés. It's simply not fair in my opinion.

[Foreign Soil]

Where did the popularity argument come from? I asked about credentials, not ticket sales. Lomachenko has one pro fight, and Golovkin's résumé is nowhere near Andre Ward's. Rigondeaux and Ward are considered to be 2 of the top 5 best boxers on the planet, and shouldn't have to bend in negotiations to the 2 potential challengers mentioned previously, regardless of their ability to draw.

In regards to your comment that I replied to originally, I would indeed complain if Andre Ward or Guillermo Rigondeaux were made to bend to the demands of boxers with less than a quarter of their résumés. It's simply not fair in my opinion.

It seems you have one set of standards for certain groups than you do for others. Rigondeaux has a weak resume if you take out Donaire(who is overrated to begin with). If Lomachenko sticks to their plan and wins, his resume will be quite close within a handful of fights. I'm sure you would then still make an excuse as to why one fighter should drain, for a supposed far superior fighter. I find it absolutely absurd to a comical degree that someone with 1 pro fight is being called a ducker. Out of all of the crazed comments this forum produces, that has to be the most ridiculous I've seen yet.

[doom_specialist]

It seems you have one set of standards for certain groups than you do for others. Rigondeaux has a weak resume if you take out Donaire(who is overrated to begin with). If Lomachenko sticks to their plan and wins, his resume will be quite close within a handful of fights. I'm sure you would then still make an excuse as to why one fighter should drain, for a supposed far superior fighter. I find it absolutely absurd to a comical degree that someone with 1 pro fight is being called a ducker. Out of all of the crazed comments this forum produces, that has to be the most ridiculous I've seen yet.

I've never called Lomachenko a ducker, so please don't include me in whatever you've read on this site. The fact remains that Rigondeaux has proven himself and Lomachenko hasn't, so Lomachenko shouldn't be the one in the driver's seat during negotiations. Do you honestly believe that a guy with 1 pro fight should be able to tell a world champion what weight they will fight at? If so, i have nothing further to discuss with you. Either he fights on Rigondeaux' terms, or he continues to make his case at higher weights while waiting for Rigondeaux to move up. Rigondeaux isn't the only fight he can take, but if he does, I think it should be on the champion's terms. We don't even know what the guy is made yet for him to be demanding anything, so until he shows us, I'll consider Rigondeaux the "far superior fighter."

As far as me having standards for "certain groups", you're absolutely correct. In 1 group, we have proven fighters. In the other, we have unproven fighters. Proven fighters call the shots, and unproven fighters don't. Anything else you were insinuating or attempting to allude to is false.

[Foreign Soil]

I've never called Lomachenko a ducker, so please don't include me in whatever you've read on this site. The fact remains that Rigondeaux has proven himself and Lomachenko hasn't, so Lomachenko shouldn't be the one in the driver's seat during negotiations. Do you honestly believe that a guy with 1 pro fight should be able to tell a world champion what weight they will fight at? If so, i have nothing further to discuss with you. Either he fights on Rigondeaux' terms, or he continues to make his case at higher weights while waiting for Rigondeaux to move up. Rigondeaux isn't the only fight he can take, but if he does, I think it should be on the champion's terms.

As far as me having standards for "certain groups", you're absolutely correct. In 1 group, we have proven fighters. In the other, we have unproven fighters. Proven fighters call the shots, and unproven fighters don't. Anything else you were insinuating or attempting to allude to is false.

Lomachenko isn't even calling Rigo out - what's the pretentious fuss about? You're getting on your high horse when there's nothing even there to ***** about.

[doom_specialist]

Lomachenko isn't even calling Rigo out - what's the pretentious fuss about? You're getting on your high horse when there's nothing even there to ***** about.

My original reply to you was in response to you saying that Lomachenko would be considered a coward for not going down to fight Rigondeaux, but people supporting that mindset would complain if Andre Ward were made to go down to fight Gennady Golovkin.

My response was that the two couldn't be compared, because neither Golovkin nor Lomachenko are in the position to tell Ward and Rigondeaux what to do. Ward and Rigondeaux are proven champions and should call the shots, meaning that if anyone should have to change weight, it should be the challengers. I then explained that Lomachenko had other options besides going down, but should have to accept the champion's terms should he choose to challenge for a title. All of my responses have been in line with the original argument, and have not been pretentious in any way. We're obviously not going to see eye to eye though so I think I'll stop with the back and forth.