No one can do what manny Did.

[Jam Jars]

You know any welter that drained down to 112 or 122, beating first ballot HOFs along the way?

He's an ATG drainer, not really seen as a positive.

[Bretty Poy32]

He's an ATG drainer, not really seen as a positive.

[TonitosWay]

Manny Pacquiao is the type of fighter that comes along every century or so.

Glad to have witnessed a modern marvel; kind of makes up for me missing the Bruce Lee era.

Has wins over prime first ballot HOFers under his belt when he was remotely unknown.

[spytactics]

Props to manny, a true warrior

[spytactics]

Yet..................he fought the true Welterweight Champ in Baldomir.........for more money..........................can't rewrite history

No body cares...baldomir has disappeared and floyd will always be known for ducking marg, prime cotto, and prime manny

[luisivich]

He's an ATG drainer, not really seen as a positive.

you're talking about cotto?
before he fought cotto:
pac is at superfeather 4 fight before
pac is at lightweight 3 fights before.
and is at light welterweight 1 fight before.

how about delahoya?
dela hoya got criticized for making pac move 2 weight division. the majority in boxingscene thought that dela hoya will knock out pac.
it isnt a cherry pick if everyone thought you'll loss.
actually dela hoya cherry pick pac. when floyd avoided a rematch.

this are the odds on that fight
Oscar De La Hoya by KO TKO or Disqualification +140
Oscar De La Hoya by Decision or Technical Decision + 170
Manny Pacquiao by KO TKO or Disqualification +600
Manny Pacquiao by Decision or Technical Decision + 300
Draw or Technical Draw +2000


from march 2008- november 2009 he fought 5 times. in 4 weight division in 4 world championship. fighting dela hoya did not take away the signifficance of that run.

[Jam Jars]

you're talking about cotto?
before he fought cotto:
pac is at superfeather 4 fight before
pac is at lightweight 3 fights before.
and is at light welterweight 1 fight before.

how about delahoya?
dela hoya got criticized for making pac move 2 weight division. the majority in boxingscene thought that dela hoya will knock out pac.
it isnt a cherry pick if everyone thought you'll loss.

this are the odds on that fight
Oscar De La Hoya by KO TKO or Disqualification +140
Oscar De La Hoya by Decision or Technical Decision + 170
Manny Pacquiao by KO TKO or Disqualification +600
Manny Pacquiao by Decision or Technical Decision + 300
Draw or Technical Draw +2000


from march 2008- november 2009 he fought 5 times. in 4 weight division in 4 world championship. fighting dela hoya did not take away the signifficance of that run.

I'm talking about him at 130 down, at 130 he was weighing more than Mayweather did for his 140 fights. Pacquiao was always a 135/140 fighter draining down to lighter weights.

[brickcityboxing]

you're talking about cotto?
before he fought cotto:
pac is at superfeather 4 fight before
pac is at lightweight 3 fights before.
and is at light welterweight 1 fight before.

how about delahoya?
dela hoya got criticized for making pac move 2 weight division. the majority in boxingscene thought that dela hoya will knock out pac.
it isnt a cherry pick if everyone thought you'll loss.
actually dela hoya cherry pick pac. when floyd avoided a rematch.

this are the odds on that fight
Oscar De La Hoya by KO TKO or Disqualification +140
Oscar De La Hoya by Decision or Technical Decision + 170
Manny Pacquiao by KO TKO or Disqualification +600
Manny Pacquiao by Decision or Technical Decision + 300
Draw or Technical Draw +2000


from march 2008- november 2009 he fought 5 times. in 4 weight division in 4 world championship. fighting dela hoya did not take away the signifficance of that run.

So they were paying more than even money on both Delahoya and PAC ? I don't think you really understand how ******** works ...

[luisivich]

I'm talking about him at 130 down, at 130 he was weighing more than Mayweather did for his 140 fights. Pacquiao was always a 135/140 fighter draining down to lighter weights.

at 130-135 pac rehydrate to 145.
floyd does'nt rehydrate right?
floyd don't allow himself to be weighted at fight night doesn't mean he don't rehydrate.

most of the boxers do rehydrate. its not cheating.

[luisivich]

So they were paying more than even money on both Delahoya and PAC ? I don't think you really understand how ******** works ...

then post the right odds then.