The truth about Adrien Broner - EXPOSED

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  • radioraheem
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    #51
    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
    Footwork is the biggest thing no doubt but there's much more. He hasn't mastered the philly shell, I can't go to deep into it, but like I said, I train under a great trainer from N. Philly and he doesn't execute it properly.

    It's very difficult to master.
    Mayweather Sr. also said that Broner doesn't do it correctly too.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #52
      Originally posted by radioraheem
      Mayweather Sr. also said that Broner doesn't do it correctly too.
      Yea, I mean the shell is supposed to counter the right hand perfectly, not leave you exposed to it.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
        I have said for a long time that Broner is not as good as some thought. Now, after the fight, I thought Malignaggi was dead on when he said that he hadn't fought the level of competition that deserved him the recognition he was getting.

        He described them as "Laundromat workers" but in reality they were just really small guys. Broner did NOT go up in weight, that is a misconception. He was and is a WW. He wasn't making 135 anymore, let alone 130. He paid fines and looked HUGE vs guys like Reese and Demarco. At 147 he looked the best I have ever seen him physically, he was RIPPED. It's his natural weight and there's a reason his camp even said he could go up to 154 one day.

        So is he that bad or is Maidana that good? I said that if Broner is to beat Miadana, he would have to do one thing we haven't seen, and that's move. Use his footwork to out box Maidana but we had never seen that of Broner.

        Well, he can't move. He has no footwork, his philly shell is very hittable and we now see that getting hit by a lagit WW is a different thing all together. Broner just doesn't have the output of punches needed to counter and win on points, doesn't have the power to hurt any of the big WW (maybe except Khan with his chin but Khan is 2X the fighter) and he doesn't have the undefeated thing to promote himself with.

        His image took a hit, and Maidana showed that when he can't hurt you with his shots initially, he's in big trouble. I don't see him beating any of the top WW to be honest, unless he learns to move the way we saw Thurman evolve in his game. Broner has to become a boxer/puncher to have success again at this weight.

        On one last note about his character. I don't care the way he acts, the ****** things he does but...

        I believe if you are going to run your mouth, be a pro and a man and do the post fight interview. He was dirty in the fight, acted like a lowlife in dry humping Maidana, was knocked down and said he was pushed, hit after the bell and ran away when it was time to pay the piper.

        I don't believe in Karma, but it sure looks like it was handed out tonight.
        I have always said that Broner was the next Berto, not the next Floyd.

        People criticized his wide stance that limits his mobility his whole career, and it finally caught up to him. I don't think its something he can change. If he narrows his stance to increase his mobility, he will sacrifice power, and he just isn't slick enough to get by without it.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
          I have said for a long time that Broner is not as good as some thought. Now, after the fight, I thought Malignaggi was dead on when he said that he hadn't fought the level of competition that deserved him the recognition he was getting.

          He described them as "Laundromat workers" but in reality they were just really small guys. Broner did NOT go up in weight, that is a misconception. He was and is a WW. He wasn't making 135 anymore, let alone 130. He paid fines and looked HUGE vs guys like Reese and Demarco. At 147 he looked the best I have ever seen him physically, he was RIPPED. It's his natural weight and there's a reason his camp even said he could go up to 154 one day.

          So is he that bad or is Maidana that good? I said that if Broner is to beat Miadana, he would have to do one thing we haven't seen, and that's move. Use his footwork to out box Maidana but we had never seen that of Broner.

          Well, he can't move. He has no footwork, his philly shell is very hittable and we now see that getting hit by a lagit WW is a different thing all together. Broner just doesn't have the output of punches needed to counter and win on points, doesn't have the power to hurt any of the big WW (maybe except Khan with his chin but Khan is 2X the fighter) and he doesn't have the undefeated thing to promote himself with.

          His image took a hit, and Maidana showed that when he can't hurt you with his shots initially, he's in big trouble. I don't see him beating any of the top WW to be honest, unless he learns to move the way we saw Thurman evolve in his game. Broner has to become a boxer/puncher to have success again at this weight.

          On one last note about his character. I don't care the way he acts, the ****** things he does but...

          I believe if you are going to run your mouth, be a pro and a man and do the post fight interview. He was dirty in the fight, acted like a lowlife in dry humping Maidana, exaggerated the headbutt to the chin, was knocked down and said he was pushed, hit after the bell and ran away when it was time to pay the piper.

          I don't believe in Karma, but it sure looks like it was handed out tonight.
          spot on about broner 140 might be tough for him as well! he did give chino some dap afterwards ill give him that but he should of stayed and spoke to the fans

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            #55
            Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
            BS, Broner was being propped up by Showtime, he was HEAVILY invested in. I'm not trying to be the "im in the fight game so you don't know guy" but it takes millions to make these shows and the risk to reward is scary.

            They really believed in Broner being the next big thing, so many people thought highly of him, believe me. He's a talented kid, just not the great fighter everyone really banked on.

            Canelo was the same risk, but he paid off.
            yep started by hbo, and then showtime wanted to keep it going and bank in on both guys, canelo is still there and broner is lookin real bad right now

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            • Shaniqua
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              #56


              I remember watching a video with the moron Barry Robinson stating how Broner is the second best in the world at transitioning from defence to offense and how he's such a master technician hahaha I can't find the video now though maybe the tool took it down out of embarrassment.

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                #57
                I think most of us here on boxingscene realized that Broner was being hyped way too much. Sure, he had fans and Showtime invested a lot of money in him.

                The main problem with Broner tonight was actually his defense, not his offense. Broner is still a hard puncher, not the hardest puncher since I think he lost his 1 punch KO power at WW, but still has the tools to hurt his opponents.

                Tonight, as with most of his fights, he had 0 mobility, his shoulder roll was absolutely terrible and most important of all, he received tons of left hands from Maidana, I mean he just couldn't stop receiving the left hook to the head. He was just way too confident in his ability to slip shots and when he didn't he received massive damage from Maidana, who is a heavy puncher of course.

                I think his offensive game was decent tonight, but his main problem is his very low workrate, he threw just 400 punches today while Maidana threw over 900. Maidana won several rounds by just being the most active fighter.

                I think Broner can make 140 if he trains harder and I give him a better shot of being a good fighter there than at WW.

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                • radioraheem
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Shaniqua


                  I remember watching a video with the moron Barry Robinson stating how Broner is the second best in the world at transitioning from defence to offense and how he's such a master technician hahaha I can't find the video now though maybe the tool took it down out of embarrassment.
                  Did he really?

                  Small things, all things. haha

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                  • KRITKL
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by vacon04
                    I think most of us here on boxingscene realized that Broner was being hyped way too much. Sure, he had fans and Showtime invested a lot of money in him.

                    The main problem with Broner tonight was actually his defense, not his offense. Broner is still a hard puncher, not the hardest puncher since I think he lost his 1 punch KO power at WW, but still has the tools to hurt his opponents.

                    Tonight, as with most of his fights, he had 0 mobility, his shoulder roll was absolutely terrible and most important of all, he received tons of left hands from Maidana, I mean he just couldn't stop receiving the left hook to the head. He was just way too confident in his ability to slip shots and when he didn't he received massive damage from Maidana, who is a heavy puncher of course.

                    I think his offensive game was decent tonight, but his main problem is his very low workrate, he threw just 400 punches today while Maidana threw over 900. Maidana won several rounds by just being the most active fighter.

                    I think Broner can make 140 if he trains harder and I give him a better shot of being a good fighter there than at WW.
                    Great post TS and this post also
                    he was game but his defense needs work and he ain't a WW

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                    • Ham Porter
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                      I thought Canelo was propped up as well, but he managed to live up to the hype and shows he is a great young fighter.



                      When did Alvarez live up to the hype?

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