So is it safe to say Ariza is DONE?

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  • Los Zetas
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    #11
    Originally posted by mathed
    Arum, Schaefer, Haymon, Ariza, Conte, Heredia......all shady as heck but thriving in the world of boxing.
    Ariza is not a promoter or manager. He is a conditioner... I am sure his contracts are on a fight by fight basis.

    Ariza has a lot of bad press, because he creates it. He is actually a limelight whore who seems to talk far too much, which causes problems.

    I have never seen a strength and conditioning trainer have so much to say.

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    • boliodogs
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      #12
      Ariza is the one that said he was more important to a fighter's success than Roach was. He made the Pacquiao-Rios fight into Roach vs. Ariza. Pacquiao was supposed to be no where near as good without the help of Ariza and Rios was supposed to become a monster with Ariza helping him. So when Pacquiao beat up Rios like taking candy from a baby it showed how unimportant Ariza really is to a fighter's success.

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      • mathed
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        #13
        Originally posted by DislikeESVideos
        Ariza is not a promoter or manager. He is a conditioner... I am sure his contracts are on a fight by fight basis.

        Ariza has a lot of bad press, because he creates it. He is actually a limelight whore who seems to talk far too much, which causes problems.

        I have never seen a strength and conditioning trainer have so much to say.
        I was just trying to say that he is shady and shady guys always seem to be able to dupe prospects with potential to use their services to "make it" in the sport. He thinks he has some pull but he really doesn't, like you said, he just runs his mouth a lot.

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        • Evol
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          #14
          Waiting for that book to come out! Couldn't have been a perfect timing.

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          • hectari
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            #15
            LOL dude Boxing is the land where shady men roam, look at Victor Conte boxing accepted him with open arms, and look at that pimp Adonis Stevenson lol at Ariza career being done.

            Boxing is the only sport where PC *******ism hasn't infected it.

            you can be yourself in boxing, you can go on racist rants, call someone the F word and still have a striving career and not have to be punished like those athletes in the NFL and NBA who have to walk on egg shells.

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            • Duckweather Jr.
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              #16
              Will buy the book but it seems that karma has caught up with ariza.

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              • U_TALKING_2_ME?
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                #17
                Originally posted by hectari
                LOL dude Boxing is the land where shady men roam, look at Victor Conte boxing accepted him with open arms, and look at that pimp Adonis Stevenson lol at Ariza career being done.

                Boxing is the only sport where PC *******ism hasn't infected it.

                you can be yourself in boxing, you can go on racist rants, call someone the F word and still have a striving career and not have to be punished like those athletes in the NFL and NBA who have to walk on egg shells.
                No one gave that pimp anything he took it with his left hand.

                Conte was sharp enough to make his own PEDs.

                There is a thousand strength and conditioning coaches, and all of the info needed to be one is free on the net.

                Arum just threw his ass under the bus.

                And this dumb mofo just had his last high profile fighter in the biggest fight of his life piss dirty.

                And is known to be a distraction to fighters and there camps because he wants the limelight for himself.

                Yes your right he has a real bright future, what was I thinking?

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                • radioraheem
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by U_TALKING_2_ME?
                  No one gave that pimp anything he took it with his left hand.

                  Conte was sharp enough to make his own PEDs.

                  There is a thousand strength and conditioning coaches, and all of the info needed to be one is free on the net.

                  Arum just threw his ass under the bus.

                  And this dumb mofo just had his last high profile fighter in the biggest fight of his life piss dirty.

                  And is known to be a distraction to fighters and there camps because he wants the limelight for himself.

                  Yes your right he has a real bright future, what was I thinking?

                  Conte is not and was not sharp enough to make his own PEDs. He's not that educated in the sciences as people assume (i.e. he has no college degree). Alex Ariza actually went to school and has a diploma. Memo Heredia also went to school and has a diploma, and his father is a chemistry professor. Their backgrounds are worlds away.

                  Conte was more of a smart businessman, not so much scientist. Boxing is so shady, you watch, Ariza will continue to have a good career. Look at Conte, look at Memo. Their pasts are waaaaaay more infamous and checkered than Ariza's. Ariza is a goddamn saint compared to them.

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                  • U_TALKING_2_ME?
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by radioraheem
                    Conte is not and was not sharp enough to make his own PEDs. He's not that educated in the sciences as people assume (i.e. he has no college degree). Alex Ariza actually went to school and has a diploma. Memo Heredia also went to school and has a diploma, and his father is a chemistry professor. Their backgrounds are worlds away.

                    Conte was more of a smart businessman, not so much scientist. Boxing is so shady, you watch, Ariza will continue to have a good career. Look at Conte, look at Memo. Their pasts are waaaaaay more infamous and checkered than Ariza's. Ariza is a goddamn saint compared to them.
                    Then I stand corrected on that fact.

                    But I stand by everything else.


                    EDIT: He might have a degree and Conte might be lacking one, but let me ask you which one seems more educated when they speak?
                    Last edited by U_TALKING_2_ME?; 12-13-2013, 11:25 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      I was just trying to say that he is shady and shady guys always seem to be able to dupe prospects with potential to use their services to "make it" in the sport. He thinks he has some pull but he really doesn't, like you said, he just runs his mouth a lot.
                      I think that boxers are fickle and he takes advantage. They see this guy get people into shape and they jump on board, but once they see the baggage and his mouth run, it eventually wears people down.

                      I have worked with mouthy people and they really annoys me. They aren't even insulting people, it's just how they talk.

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