A clip from some article about Floyd Mayweather Jr

[El Angel]

How was Oscar a corpse against Floyd? Garbage article.

[djtmal]

Say what ya want, but a lot of this comes from fmj's quote history

All of yous hear him say I don't duck and dodge nobody, but when asked about Manny Pac,
its the standard "like I said before," then the usual diss of Manny's record, the numbers, Arum, etc., when a straight yes or no would clear up any doubts about his willingness to climb
into the ring.

Damn I miss Muhammad Ali..lol

[Espy]

If there is one boxing fan alive who ever believed that Mayweather was really retired for good, they better go back to watching reruns on the ScFi channel. The truth is Floyd Mayweather was never retired, nor did he ever let himself get out of shape. Incidentally, the second part of that is commendable. The first part is a joke. All Floyd has been doing is waiting around for the guys in his "real" division to either get old (Shane Mosley) lose (Miguel Cotto), get beat up (Antonio Margarito) outgrow the division (Paul Williams) and fall off the radar (Kermit Cintron).

He beat Marquez so convincingly that JMM has hardly complained or even asked for rematch. Even JMM the king of "I want a rematch" wants no business in the ring with Floyd again. If weight was the only factor in May's win, I'm sure Marquez would've wanted a rematch seeing that he is a more legitimate WW now.

How long are boxing fans going to be made a fool of by this manager/fighter? I have no problem with a fighter trying to make as much money with the least risk possible, to a degree. Joe Frazier has the best saying I've ever heard regarding the boxing business. It goes, "Boxing is the only sport where you get your brains shook, your money took, and your name in the undertaker’s book." Having said that, great fighters, I mean all-time great fighters, something I'm not convinced Floyd Mayweather Jr. is, seek out fights with other great fighters their size.

Yeah this is completely opinionated but let's see if this goes anywhere

You'd think Mayweather would see that to a degree Roy Jones, who was a greater and more skilled fighter than him, suffers today from the perception of not always seeking fights that offered the biggest challenge. To this day Roy continues to fight to keep fans from forgetting who he was. Yeah, in a way we "Musta Forgot." This is what happens when you fight too many Clinton Woods.’

Yet again pretty opinionated

I'm not saying Mayweather can't beat Mosley, Cotto or Margarito. However, I can't say that he can either. I also know how the game works and what he's doing. This is fighting just to make the most money with the least risk so he can retire undefeated. He can't say that, but I can. Instead he tells us how great he is and sadly more than a few fans buy his BS.

Now he's just being condescending which obviously shows bias (something good analysts/writers aren't supposed to do)

Great? Maybe. I think outstanding is more the case. It's a joke and insult saying that he's in the same class as Sugar Ray Robinson, and he has to pay his way into the gym just to watch Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns wrap their hands. Look at the list of who's who that they fought compared to Mayweather.

More condescending babble before an argument has even been made and supported, weak logical construction

Floyd actually has had more name fighters to fight than Roy Jones did during his prime. Does it take much imagination to wonder what Mayweather's record would be if he fought Shane Mosley's resume? Comparing quality of opposition between Mosley and Mayweather is like comparing hand speed between Butterbean and Larry Holmes.

Hypothetical, and opinion based. I think that Mayweather is better than Mosley and thus would have fared better against his competition. See how that did nothing for the argument?

In reality, Floyd Mayweather Jr. isn't even undefeated, at least not in the ring. He lost the first meeting with Jose Luis Castillo 115-113. Even HBO house judge Harold Lederman scored the fight 7-5 in rounds for Castillo. Yep, Mayweather's network and their own judge had the fight 5-5 in rounds after 10. Lederman then correctly scored the 11th and 12th for Castillo, sealing the fight for his opponent. Mayweather clearly won the rematch, but the point is boxing fans have seen Mayweather bettered in the ring at least once.

Judges thought otherwise. Nice ... supporting facts with opinions, clearly a sign of a great writer. In my opinion Lederman is also a very terrible judge

I don't want to hear this baloney about Mayweather not being a true welterweight. That's just another excuse to keep Floyd from tangling with the guys in his division. Yeah, he's not a welterweight, but Marquez has to come up to 144 so Floyd has another opponent with a big name to pad his record. Didn't Mosley turn pro at 135, just five pounds heavier than Mayweather was when he turned pro? As far as Mayweather being seen as some kind of a warrior by agreeing to fight Marquez, if it comes off, and then Pacquiao, I just don't see it.

Probably the only decent point so far. Still it would have made more sense for Marquez to move up rather than Mayweather move down. Mayweather is the bigger draw and is obviously not going to move down to face Marquez when he can make other fights. He fought Marquez to prove a point that he could dominate Pac's nemesis. Something Pac failed to do at WW, making his point seem a little more legit (I will concede Marquez was more adjusted at WW when he fought Pac compared to when he fought Floyd)

I have no doubt that boxing fans will flock to Mayweather and want to attack those that expose him for who he really is. Be my guest, let him rip you off and then give you a lousy one-sided fight versus a 36 year old opponent. Does it mean anything that when he beats Marquez he's beating a guy much smaller than him, who Pacquiao had down three times in the first round back in 2004. Does it say anything that he didn't even make Oscar De La Hoya look bad and actually lost rounds to him, and then Pacquiao dominated Oscar and retired him? Oh, and Shane Mosley beat Oscar more convincingly in 2000 than Mayweather did in 2007. Yet somehow everybody goes crazy over Mayweather. Can boxing fans be that starved to see a great fighter?

Author fails to mention that the 2004 fight was a draw? Also fails to mention that Mayweather moved up to junior middle weight to fight Oscar which they are bashing him for doing to Marquez. So they bash him for making Marquez move up but don't congratulate him for essentially doing what Marquez did and yet still winning. Also fails to mention that Mosley didn't have to move up to junior middle weight to fight Oscar.

I'm not saying Floyd Mayweather Jr. doesn't posses a phenomenal skill set, because he does. In the ring he's a much smarter fighter than he gets credit for. He's terrific fundamentally and never beats himself. More than that, he's mentally tougher in the ring than he is credited for being and is great at making his opponent fight to their weakness. That said, he's not creative offensively nor does he exhibit a varied attack. His defense is outstanding, but that's more a case of him knowing when to punch and break off the exchanges. The problem is, I want to see him in there with another outstanding/great fighter his size who isn't old or on a steep decline.

LMFAO @ Mayweather not being creative offensively. That's why so many boxers are able to time him right? Because he is so one dimensional. SMH this guys has to be trolling. Anybody who watches boxing knows that Mayweather gives his opponents so many looks which is why they have so much trouble with him. He fights in the pocket, at range, off the ropes, with a high gaurd, with his hands down, off the jab, off of lead right hands. He feints, sets traps, and counter punches. Very limited offense for sure, smh

At the press conference announcing his return Mayweather said, "I am not wasting any time with a tune-up fight. I'm going straight to the top. Marquez called me out immediately after his victory over Juan Diaz in February and now he gets his wish. What he is going to find out is that you should be careful what you wish for." Yeah Floyd, you're going to the top alright. The top of the lightweight division versus a fighter who is 2-0 as a lightweight. The only problem with that is you're a welterweight.

So I suppose Mayweather was supposed to go back to lightweight to fight Marquez?

I guess he never heard Mosley, Cotto, Margarito or Williams call him out. I know I sure have. Floyd Mayweather Jr. in my opinion is very transparent in the con he's pulling off. Quite successfully I might add. Oh, and if anyone out there believes that the 37-year-old Mosley declined to fight Mayweather previously or fears him in any way, next you'll try and convince me New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady is a choker too. Although, I do expect Mayweather to fight Mosley eventually, Shane’s just not old enough yet.

Must not have heard or seen interviews when Mayweather was calling out Mosley earlier in his career. Cotto, Margarito, and Williams is a valid point but he ended up fighting Cotto and the fight was at 154 which would play to Cotto's advantage more so it wasn't like he made the fight as easy as possible on himself.

One more time, I'd have no problem giving Floyd Mayweather Jr. his props if he earned them the way past great fighters have, but he hasn't. He's definitely a great manager and no one can dispute that. Mayweather Jr. may be great, he just won't let us find out! And if he thinks beating Juan Manuel Marquez and Manny Pacquiao will change that, I say only in his mind. As great as they are, they are nowhere near as tough and dangerous to Mayweather as Mosley, Cotto and Margarito.

Really ironic that Pac ends up beating those guys that he claims are more dangerous to Mayweather, shows how correct this guy was ehh? Smh

This article sucks. Very little support (only two somewhat decent talking points) and mostly opinion based. This guys clearly has no idea how to debate with facts.

[rambov]

Anyone who thinks Oscar was a shell when he fought Lil Floyd is a fool.

Oscar was in probably the best shape of his life. Free of any toxins.

[BlackSnakeMamba]

Floyd beat a much better version of Oscar De La Hoya back in 2007. Oscar wasn't weight drained. Terrible article it was probably written by Ed Tolentino, Chino/Recah Trinidad and wannabee Ronnie Nathanielz.