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  • !! Shawn
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    Not impressed by Lomachenko

    He seems to be getting quite a bit of hype already, and I remember people salivating during the olympics, but honestly, I am sold on him.

    I've been watching his WSB fights, and he looks like he gets touched up to much, and is a fairly light puncher.



    He is good at touching people up for points it looks like, but I have a feeling he isn't going to transfer so well into the professional ranks.

    He is very skilled, but not in a slick way. Given his style, his power deficit will probably catch up to him sooner rather than later, especially if he is already fighting guys like Salido.

    I know he blamed the power on the gloves in the WSB, but it just to me doesn't look like there is even much force behind his shots to begin with. He is an arm puncher.
    Last edited by !! Shawn; 12-09-2013, 02:48 AM.
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    #2
    Originally posted by !! Shawn
    He seems to be getting quite a bit of hype already, and I remember people salivating during the olympics, but honestly, I am sold on him.

    I've been watching his WSB fights, and he looks like he gets touched up to much, and is a fairly light puncher.



    He is good at touching people up for points it looks like, but I have a feeling he isn't going to transfer so well into the professional ranks.

    He is very skilled, but not in a slick way. Given his style, his power deficit will probably catch up to him sooner rather than later, especially if he is already fighting guys like Salido.

    I know he blamed the power on the gloves in the WSB, but it just to me doesn't look like there is even much force behind his shots to begin with.
    Hmm...well we'll find out soon enough won't we. Let's face it, so far in the pros we only have 1 fight to look at. Like it or not in the WSB he was fighting the amateur equivalent of top 10s in pretty much every fight, yet didn't lose more than a few rounds (Selimov his World Championship nemesis was the only one to take him close).

    If he can beat Salido in his second fight than it's hard to be that critical I'd say. Let's just wait and see...

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    • !! Shawn
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      #3
      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
      Hmm...well we'll find out soon enough won't we. Let's face it, so far in the pros we only have 1 fight to look at. Like it or not in the WSB he was fighting the amateur equivalent of top 10s in pretty much every fight, yet didn't lose more than a few rounds (Selimov his World Championship nemesis was the only one to take him close).

      If he can beat Salido in his second fight than it's hard to be that critical I'd say. Let's just wait and see...
      I personally think he is going to get past Salido. Salido's claim to fame is beating Lopez, who's claim to fame was Bob Arum's thought he was going to be Tito Trinidad.

      But when he gets in there with some of the rougher customers who can take his shots and keep coming, hes not of the temperament to get on his bike and run, and as Juan Diaz showed us several times, when you don't have that power, all the pressure in the world won't overcome.

      I'm just taking a good hard look at him, and comparing him to what is expected of him, which is greatness.

      He is in a position like Rigo, he is already developed, he's not going to change much if any at this point in the game. He is ready to fight the best, he's been fighting the best already.

      Its just a question of how well his assets will work for him in the pro ranks.

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      • Uncle Rodge
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        #4
        Everyone all together, in 3...2...1...

        You don't know shit about boxing.

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        • IIG
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          I know one thing, Top Rank is barking up the wrong tree talking about Rigo-Lomachenko for 2014. From what I've seen, Rigondeaux will easily take him to school.

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          • badnewsbrown
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            #6
            Salido stops him. But lets not expose him to much yet, i want good odds when i put money down on Salido.

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            • Mikhnienko
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              #7
              So your evidence for Lomachenko not being a big puncher is a video of him hurting a 5'10 140lb spoiler Maxwell who is three weighclasses naturally bigger than him while wearing WSB gloves. Makes sense.

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              • bojangles1987
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                I'm impressed, but Top Rank is probably moving him waaaay to quick to have him fight Salido already. That's a hard fight for the best and most experienced of pros, if Lomachenko wins the guy is a legend.

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                • Black Barty
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by !! Shawn
                  I personally think he is going to get past Salido. Salido's claim to fame is beating Lopez, who's claim to fame was Bob Arum's thought he was going to be Tito Trinidad.

                  But when he gets in there with some of the rougher customers who can take his shots and keep coming, hes not of the temperament to get on his bike and run, and as Juan Diaz showed us several times, when you don't have that power, all the pressure in the world won't overcome.

                  I'm just taking a good hard look at him, and comparing him to what is expected of him, which is greatness.

                  He is in a position like Rigo, he is already developed, he's not going to change much if any at this point in the game. He is ready to fight the best, he's been fighting the best already.

                  Its just a question of how well his assets will work for him in the pro ranks.
                  So you think he can get past a hardened, world class veteran in his second pro fight, yet you are not impressed by him? You are contradicting yourself, dude.

                  And when people say "I'm not impressed with Loma because this and that...", I like to remind them how vulnerable Rigo looked not very long before the Donaire win. Loma is a friggin novice, a super talented one, but still a novice. Let him ease into the pro ranks. Actually, if I didn't want to see him make history by becoming a world champ in his second fight, I would advise against the Salido fight, because it might be too soon for him. Does that mean I doubt his potential? Absolutely not.

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987
                    I'm impressed, but Top Rank is probably moving him waaaay to quick to have him fight Salido already. That's a hard fight for the best and most experienced of pros, if Lomachenko wins the guy is a legend.
                    This is the common concern. It just seems too early for him as a pro, I also would like to see him in at least another 2 or 3 fights first, but apparently Loma himself made it condition of him signing that he got the absolute earliest title fight possible (he woulda fought for a belt on his first fight if he could).

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