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  • #21
    Originally posted by Money Team. View Post
    So Ward cleans out 168 beats the lineal lhw champ=no good enough

    Stevenson beats the lineal champ a former champion=not good enough


    i swear all some people do is complain
    Golovkin beating Stevens was good enough.............this is NSB bruh

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    • #22
      Originally posted by hitking View Post
      Actually, Baldomir was the universally recognized and lineal welterweight champ when Floyd fought him. Margarito was attempting to rebuild himself after losing to Daniel Santos. And after a few wins, lost to an untested prospect named Paul Williams. The only time Margarito was considered the #1 welterweight ws after he smashed Cotto's face in with bricks. But then he proceeded to get KTFO by Mosley, who Floyd fought immediately afterwards. There's a lil history lesson for ya. Floyd didn't have a cherry picking problem. Margarito had a "kept losing" problem. Butt anywoo. Those are mere triflin facts. Carry on.
      all i have to say is "you don't know sh-it about boxing!"

      he was #1 in 2004,2005,2006,and 2008

      check the rankings.

      mayorga, spinks, judah, baldomir, and floyd all turned down fights with him. so according to you if golovking beats 8 top ten middles, wins 3 belts but finally loses he's a bum and sergio not fighting him was the right decision? fighting a jouneyman who appeared out of thin air then vanished just as quickly is a better win? lol!

      also a year and a half later is immediately? mosely was clearly shot in that fight but who cares right? still is a great win for floyd. you obviously don't know what cherry picking is. cherry picking is fighting guys like baldomir and mosley when they score fluke wins. cherry picking is not fighting guys like margarito who was the top guy for years.

      margarito had one loss in ten years when floyd ducked him and that was a fight at 154 which most people thought he won.

      you love ducking.
      Last edited by daggum; 12-01-2013, 06:56 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by daggum View Post
        all i have to say is "you don't know sh-it about boxing!"

        he was #1 in 2004,2005,2006,and 2008

        check the rankings.

        mayorga, spinks, judah, baldomir, and floyd all turned down fights with him. so according to you if golovking beats 8 top ten middles, wins 3 belts but finally loses he's a bum and sergio not fighting him was the right decision? fighting a jouneyman who appeared out of thin air then vanished just as quickly is a better win? lol!
        Do you really want to do this to yourself?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by J The UnBiased View Post
          Do you really want to do this to yourself?
          he was. check the rankings. margarito was ranked #1 all those years. sorry you hate facts. like i said floyd beating baldomir was the equivalent of a journeyman beating stevenson, then ward beating that journeyman while not fighting either stevenson or kovalev. it's called cherry picking and floyd does it well.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by J The UnBiased View Post
            Do you really want to do this to yourself?
            Dude is so ****in' ****** and uninformed that he's not even worth debating. Floyd took the belt from Baldomir, who took it from Judah, who took it from Spinks, who took it from Mayorga, who took it from Forrest, who took it from Mosley, who took it from DLH. Margarito's belt was a paper trinket he won vacant in a fight with Antonio Diaz. Clearly, Baldomir's title's lineage lines up with what reflected the top of the welterweight division. Obviously this dumbass thinks the "Arum says nobody wants to fight him" belt is official.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by daggum View Post
              he was. check the rankings. margarito was ranked #1 all those years. sorry you hate facts. like i said floyd beating baldomir was the equivalent of a journeyman beating stevenson, then ward beating that journeyman while not fighting either stevenson or kovalev. it's called cherry picking and floyd does it well.
              Not refuting the ranking, just refuting the intent behind your statement. Margs was never the man at 147 pounds, ever. Where was Tony when Vernon was there? Where was Tony when Cory was there? Where was Tony when Zab was there? He was recovering from losses! The men I just named were the actual Guys to beat in the weight class. When Zab became the man at 147, Carlos knocked him off the thrown. Floyd then came in and beat the both of them, then Margarito went on to get beatdown by a no name who later became Paul Williams.

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              • #27
                Ward will get ktfo by Adonis. Ward is too small for the light heavyweight class. He is already small for 168.

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                • #28
                  That was Stevenson's 4th fight this year and his second in 63 days. Ward was coming off an injury and a career long layoff. Gotta look at the circumstances sometimes.

                  Ward has just ran through a gauntlet of talented opponents. Rodriguez was top 10 FFS.

                  Stevenson knocked out the lineal champion and defended it twice in two months.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    all i have to say is "you don't know sh-it about boxing!"

                    he was #1 in 2004,2005,2006,and 2008

                    check the rankings.

                    mayorga, spinks, judah, baldomir, and floyd all turned down fights with him. so according to you if golovking beats 8 top ten middles, wins 3 belts but finally loses he's a bum and sergio not fighting him was the right decision? fighting a jouneyman who appeared out of thin air then vanished just as quickly is a better win? lol!

                    also a year and a half later is immediately? mosely was clearly shot in that fight but who cares right? still is a great win for floyd. you obviously don't know what cherry picking is. cherry picking is fighting guys like baldomir and mosley when they score fluke wins. cherry picking is not fighting guys like margarito who was the top guy for years.

                    margarito had one loss in ten years when floyd ducked him and that was a fight at 154 which most people thought he won.

                    you love ducking.
                    Floyd didnt duck Margarita. He structured his whole career to get two big money fights. One with Oscar and one with Gatti. They werent dangerous beast, they were paydays that would help make him more mainstream. He went directly to those two fights, and haters accused him of ducking the fighters who were in between. Floyd ducked two fighters; Mosley and Pacman. But they both ducked him first, and he ducked them in return. BUT he still ducked. But all atg's have ducked one or two fighters. SRR ducked two fighters from the murderers row. And SRL had a habit of cherrypickin, and ducked Hagler rematch. Then padded his record with meaningless rematches and trilogies with everyone except Hagler.
                    Last edited by MurkaMan; 12-01-2013, 07:18 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                      Floyd didnt duck Margarita. He structured his whole career to get two big money fights. One with Oscar and one with Gatti. They werent dangerous beast, they were paydays that would help make him more mainstream. He went directly to those two fights, and haters accused him of ducking the fighters who were in between. Floyd ducked two fighters; Mosley and Pacman. But they both ducked him first, and he ducked them in return. BUT he still ducked. But all atg's have ducked one or two fighters. SRR ducked two fighters from the murderers row. And SRL had a habit of cherrypickin, and ducked Hagler rematch. Then padded his record with meaningless rematches and trilogies with everyone except Hagler.
                      except he didn't. he turned down 8 mill to fight margarito then 3 months later accepted 8 mill to fight baldomir. if he was waiting to fight hoya why did he take this fight? cause baldomir sucks! easy 8 million dollars! margarito wasn't an easy 8 million dollars so he said no thanks.

                      floyd fought sharmba mitchell. was sharmba mitchell ranked #1? no margarito was.

                      floyd fought zab judah. was zab judah ranked #1? no margarito was.

                      then he retired when cotto and margarito were dominating the division. he had plenty of chances to fight margarito. he wasn't just waiting around for super fights. he was waiting around in cherry picker mode.

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