How has Pacquiao exactly declined?

[KickAzz]

Nice thoughtful post. Mayweather wins the fight If It should ever happen{kills me to say that} but expect Manny to give him hell and leave It all In the ring.

Cherrypicker waited for Pac to be past his prime... should Cherrypicker win, I won't give him any credit. I don't really care if the fight happens or not now because it doesn't really prove anything since Pac is past his best.

[Curtiz]

Knockouts cause Amnesia

He was never great, just very good .

[Curtiz]

for starters, it's mental. a prime pacquiao doesn't carry his opponents. prime manny didn't carry morales, barrera.


after that, his legs are going, and he can't use them for 12 rounds.
he's less accurate, and his balance is starting to suffer in his combinations.

and finally, his chin and reflexes are gone. you saw the fourth marquez fight. he got dropped by a telegraphed, winging right hand. those are shots he used to take.



it's quite obvious that he's slipped. he's not done yet, because a bit of the great fighter still remains, but he's on the downside.

See its bull**** like this that causes me to be annoyed.

He JUMPED into a hayemaker from somebody hes fought FOUR times, its not telegraphed ITS LEARNED.

Granite chin or not if you jump in to a huge counter like that you are getting KTFO.

If pac fought marquez again he would dominate him, like i saw him do in the 4th fight up until the KO.

[ironmt]

Cherrypicker waited for Pac to be past his prime... should Cherrypicker win, I won't give him any credit. I don't really care if the fight happens or not now because it doesn't really prove anything since Pac is past his best.

I understand where you are coming from{alot of people feel this way}. The fight would have been very competative In 2008-2009 and truthfully I think It still would be. Pacquiaos speed Is still enough to give Mayweather fits. I think Pac can win 4-5 rounds but will end up losing a close decision. As much as I dislike Mayweather and his arrogance he would deserve credit for beating Manny.

[kurt0411]

I understand where you are coming from{alot of people feel this way}. The fight would have been very competative In 2008-2009 and truthfully I think It still would be. Pacquiaos speed Is still enough to give Mayweather fits. I think Pac can win 4-5 rounds but will end up losing a close decision. As much as I dislike Mayweather and his arrogance he would deserve credit for beating Manny.

Yeah exactly this.

[Beercules]

I don't think Pacquiao has slowed down that much, his speed is still there. Foot work still great, Rios said his punches didn't hurt but he was rocking the sun glasses all weekend and in all the interviews I've seen. Rios also had his gloves on his face all night so...

The Pacquiao that fought Juan the 4th time looked great until ktfo6

I think Pacquiao is still capable of that, and it seems he fights better when he gets tagged. He just fought a smart fight against Rios

[sugarsmosley]

Knockouts cause Amnesia

He was never great, just very good .

Pacquiao is an easy HOF ATG.

Saying pacquiao was never great is nonsense.

[Curtiz]

Pacquiao is an easy HOF ATG.

Saying pacquiao was never great is nonsense.

HOF yes.

Just don't respect his boxing ability which will never make you 'great' in my eyes.

[kurt0411]

HOF yes.

Just don't respect his boxing ability which will never make you 'great' in my eyes.

No im sry you cant say that pac is not an ATG

[jayblack]

Ideally no fanboys, i just want to know most of you guys thoughts on pacquiao 3 years ago compared to now.

In my opinion, pac vs marquez 3 and pac vs bradley is were pac looked like he wasnt really interested but imo still won both fights regardless. Against marquez 4, imo it was pac's best performance since margarito, till he got careless. And, even though it was against rios, he fought tremendously well in the that fight, and his speed was definitely still there.

Im curious to see what you guys think? Has pac decreased, if so in what way? Is pacs still the same?

I think he did what he needed to do vs Rios, however I thought he looked much slower than what he used to and he did not have the power that he once showed. Rios is a brawler who comes straight forward with no head movement and no idea how to cut off the ring. Pac gave him angles and scored at will but by no means did he show the same speed, power, and explosiveness that he once did. I think pac better go fire his most lucrative option for his next fight because I believe his elite days are over.