Who Did "Ref" Foster Harm The Most - Froch Or Groves..?

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  • F!x
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    Who Did "Ref" Foster Harm The Most - Froch Or Groves..?

    Did Howard Foster (the incompetent referee for Froch vs Groves) harm Froch or Groves more severely? Froch was arguably on the verge of stopping Groves in conclusive fashion when the referee jumped in - did it give Groves the opportunity to dispute the loss? I thought it was a very bad stoppage because Groves was still throwing back. Extremely poor stoppage, but as much as Groves feels slighted by the ref, I'm wondering if the ref actually might have robbed Froch of a memorable finish and a indisputable KO?

    As a result of the stoppage, Groves has been elevated and has assumed the "martyr" position - in other words, he's the one who can justifiably complain about the fight being stopped prematurely. Froch on the other hand is in a position where he has to defend himself from criticism about being behind on the scorecards against Groves when the ref jumped in prematurely.

    Who did the ref harm the most?
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    Carl Froch
    33.33%
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    George Groves
    51.85%
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    Both fighters equally
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    No one - it was a fair and well-timed stoppage.
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  • takingaim
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    #2
    Groves ended up with an L when he might have come back from the brink of being KO'd, so I think it's unquestionably Groves he hurt the most.

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    • Weebler I
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      #3
      Froch, the fans held him responsible for stopping the fight and he was heavily in the ascendancy at that point.

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      • yoz
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        #4
        Originally posted by Weebler I
        Froch, the fans held him responsible for stopping the fight and he was heavily in the ascendancy at that point.
        I agree with Weebler.

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        • Dirk Diggler UK
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          #5
          Everyone - Froch, Groves and the fans.

          Foster is an absolute disgrace

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          • theboy_racer
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            #6
            The ref has harmed Froch more than Groves, because somehow this little prick GG has a bandwagon of arselickers and a warrior that deserves nothing but respect like Froch is now somehow the bad guy (done nothing wrong but show amazing heart, determination and grit) because of a slightly premature stoppage by the ref

            After round 6, there was only gonna be one winner and it wasn't gonna be Groves, Froch came through that and was looking strong, looking like he'd be relentless to the end (as usual), Groves was looking fatigued with each passing round, so in a way Groves has saved face by not being handed his first defeat as emphatically as it would most likely have been and can play the easy "i wasn't hurt" "i'd have comeback" card and people lap it up like clapping seals

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            • Juof
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              #7
              Froch was probably buzzing he got off with a win because he was losing badly

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #8
                This isn't even a question worth asking, everyone was hurt by it. Froch got a lot of criticism that was unwarranted and he looked to be on his way to getting a legitimate stoppage, looked. Groves because he wasn't given a chance to recover, that definitely ranks high as one of the most premature stoppage in boxing.

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                • MDPopescu
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by F!x
                  Did Howard Foster (the incompetent referee for Froch vs Groves) harm Froch or Groves more severely? Froch was arguably on the verge of stopping Groves in conclusive fashion when the referee jumped in - did it give Groves the opportunity to dispute the loss? I thought it was a very bad stoppage because Groves was still throwing back. Extremely poor stoppage, but as much as Groves feels slighted by the ref, I'm wondering if the ref actually might have robbed Froch of a memorable finish and a indisputable KO?

                  As a result of the stoppage, Groves has been elevated and has assumed the "martyr" position - in other words, he's the one who can justifiably complain about the fight being stopped prematurely. Froch on the other hand is in a position where he has to defend himself from criticism about being behind on the scorecards against Groves when the ref jumped in prematurely.

                  Who did the ref harm the most?
                  Good post!

                  Based on what we saw: the ref harmed Groves the most. On another hand, Froch emerged harmed as well -- as it will be difficult for him to fight in the UK again (outside Nottingham...)

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                  • LacedUp
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                    #10
                    Let's look at the facts:

                    A) Froch is still a world champion

                    B) Groves is not a world champ

                    C) B!!!

                    Hence, of course Groves. Froch got boo'd a little. both him and the fans will get over that quickly.

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