Comments Thread For: Photos: Manny Pacquiao Looks Chiseled For Rios War

[Evol]

That's more to do with Pac's style and inability to adjust. Roach's plan B is to look bad but win with activity.

If Rios pulls a Mosley, then he can forget winning.

p.s. I don't agree with the JMM comparison, Rios is nowhere near that skill level and Garcia doesn't have enough experience with Roach/Pac than Nacho has.

I'm not comparing rios with Marquez skill wise, I'm talking about the game plan roach had in the PAC/Marquez 3 and that was with the added muscles from Marquez roach thought Marquez was just gonna come out and trade power with PAC which Marquez didn't. Marquez picked his shots and got the better of manny instead. This is what I'm saying, roach think bam bam is gonna slug since that's what brandon likes to do but that's why there's a game plan, and that is to out smart your opponent. I think gracia has learned from the PAC/marg fight that u can't stand and trade and expect to beat manny like this even if ur fighter is bigger than PAC. If I'm wrong and rios comes out slugging and gets taken out then I guess gracia didn't learn anything.

[BuckToothed]

One more thing I'll like to add is we've all seen bigger guys thinking they can stand and trade with PAC and take him out. All that back fired on them so I'm pretty sure gracia is smarter this time around he's had one chance at manny with marg already I'm petty sure he's not gonna tell rios to stick to the same game plan like Marg did.

Margarito had that one chance to win when he nearly folded Manny in half with that body shot.
Rios is a much fresher version of Margarito and should be very healthy at 147.
He has 12 rounds to find that opening against a past it, coming off a KO loss Pac.

Same gameplan, but the tide is turning...

[Evol]

You're out of your mind if you don't believe Ariza helped out Pacquiao.
Pac looked good before don't get me wrong, but when he moved up in weight to 135 and connected with Ariza he looked unstoppable. He took it to Diaz, destroyed DLH, flattened Hatton, had Cotto beaten by the 6th round, had amazing stamina against Clottey, ended Margarito's career, all without ever losing speed, power, or stamina.

Yes, Pacquiao is a talent, but credit has to be given to Ariza. As I said most fighters lose either speed, power, and stamina when moving up in weight, Ariza made sure he didn't.

Don't u think roach had anything to do with it as well?? PAC took hatton, cotto, etc out with new moves. It wasn't like PAC took them out with the same straight left. I agree ariza did seem to add more power to PAC but that's all he did. PAC didn't beat those guys with just power alone.

[Evol]

Difference was, Margarito was weight drained for that fight. Not only has Margarito always been slow, but being weight drained didn't help him. He was a walking zombie in there, and should have been pulled out of there by the 9th round.
Hope Diaz takes note of this and has the guts to throw the towel if Rios is getting hurt in there.

Wtf are u talking about?? Weight drain when he weighted 160+ on fight night and Diaz???

[JJRod]

Don't u think roach had anything to do with it as well?? PAC took hatton, cotto, etc out with new moves. It wasn't like PAC took them out with the same straight left. I agree ariza did seem to add more power to PAC but that's all he did. PAC didn't beat those guys with just power alone.

Yes of course Roach helped! This goes without saying.
But as I said in respond to your comment, you have to be a fool to think Ariza didn't help out Pacquiao.

[JJRod]

Wtf are u talking about?? Weight drain when he weighted 160+ on fight night and Diaz???

Yes he was drained at 150. Pacquiao's own camp even said so at the weigh in.

And my bad, meant to say Garcia not Diaz.

[F!x]

... Floyd also looked aging in some of the pics at the final presser (vs Canelo)...
That's it...

True, I noticed that too, the difference is Pacquiao looks slightly ill in a way, or weaker in some respects, fatigued, drained, gaunt.. that sort of thing. Mayweather did look like he's aging too but he still looked very healthy.

There's something about Pacquiao in the pictures and in the 24/7 which give me the impression that he's not completely healthy. Maybe I'm looking too deeply into it, it could just be that he was tired after training / burning thousands of calories..

[Mayabang]

Damn, Pac is looking old, look at that last pic!

[Canelo Phresh]

They're gonna charge Manny with murder in China unless that's allowed over there.

[APBrooklyn]

1st pic looks like its from like 09'.... Hopefully Pacs slightly lower weight equates to a touch more speed to beat Rios to the punch...looking forward to this one mostly because I'd like to see how entact Pac's chin is.....