There is a difference between believing a fighter would win and/or hopeing

[therealpugilist]

First off....I wish the fight between Mayweather and Pacquaio would have happened years ago, but it hasnt. There are fans on both sides that feel one or the other would win. There has never been a time when I didnt Believe Mayweather would have won if they fought.


The only chance Manny had before and now is if he knocked Mayweather out with a punch he didnt see coming or a Tarver vs Jones type kayo. It wasnt and sint gonna be an affair where Mayweather is dominated and surcummbs under pressure...he never has


Mayweather today and yesteryear was gonna be favored and will be tomorrow.


Mayweather has darn near every edge at his disposal....Height, reach, skills, counterpunching, accuracy, footwork.

All Pacquaio had was his fans and a decent punch. Just as they hoped Jones would finally lose or Whitaker would finally lose. Mayweather is just too good for his own good.

[The Problem Child]

I have always BELIEVED Manny would win and not solely based on his puncher's chance. I believe Manny's speed and WORK RATE would make Floyd stay defensive and Pac would win most rounds. Pacquiao's movement, speed and crazy awkward combinations are Floyd's nightmare, Floyd likes his opponents slow, flat footed and ones that only throw 2-3 punch combinations and then stop.

There is a reason why Floyd has ducked the fight for 5 years now, let's keep it real.

[therealpugilist]

I have always BELIEVED Manny would win and not solely based on his puncher's chance. I believe Manny's speed and WORK RATE would make Floyd stay defensive and Pac would win most rounds. Pacquiao's movement, speed and crazy awkward combinations are Floyd's nightmare, Floyd likes his opponents slow, flat footed and ones that only throw 2-3 punch combinations and then stop.

There is a reason why Floyd has ducked the fight for 5 years now, let's keep it real.

Now with your assessment you sound like someone that believes what you are saying.


As far as the ducking....Arum was not gonna let that fight happen it more his fault than the fighters.


As far as his opponents...Judah was never slow, Canelo has very good hand speed not fleet of foot...Mosley, DLH, Hatton, Corrales, and Ortiz all had good hand speed.

Mayweather has shown he can adapt to any style.


When talent is equal, usually the better conditioned fighter wins or the smarter fighter. I havent seen a fighter today smarter in the ring or better prepared than floyd

[dc3383]

I never believed Floyd would beat Manny I knew he would beat Manny and quite easily at that. I knew for a fact fighting Floyd would vut your activity in half. Manny would have to think vs Floyd which we know is boxing IQ isn't that high. People claim Manny is a pressure fighter when in reality he's not he likes to dart in and out from the outside he doesn't bully you a like Margarito would do. He doesn't fight in the inside his best chance to beat Floyd was to land a straight left that KO's him in the early rounds other than that I saw no way he could beat Floyd.

[Malik Kaya]

Here we go again......

[The Problem Child]

Now with your assessment you sound like someone that believes what you are saying.


As far as the ducking....Arum was not gonna let that fight happen it more his fault than the fighters.


As far as his opponents...Judah was never slow, Canelo has very good hand speed not fleet of foot...Mosley, DLH, Hatton, Corrales, and Ortiz all had good hand speed.

Mayweather has shown he can adapt to any style.


When talent is equal, usually the better conditioned fighter wins or the smarter fighter. I havent seen a fighter today smarter in the ring or better prepared than floyd

Appreciate the respectful response man.

No doubt, I believe Arum's ego and longtime hatred towards Oscar and Floyd also affected the whole thing.

Correct but Judah... well, you know. He was good but he just didn't have it in him to take it to that extra level when the going got tough. Hmm, Canelo has speed and throws very nice combinations but he was almost as stationary as Cotto was in his fight with Floyd. He stood there at times in front of Floyd like a statue clueless.

There is no question about that, he is the BEST when it comes to adapting to styles. No argument there.

That's the thing though, Manny is just as conditioned (if not better actually) than Floyd is. Manny is throwing punches like a machine from round 1 thru 12. As of late, Floyd has been slowing down from the 7-8th round onwards. As far as fight smarts, sure Floyd got Pac in that department. Thing with Pacquiao is, he is such a phenomenon in every other area and this is one of those special cases where the more aggressive, less tactical fighter poses such a big threat.

I am also a bit happy, believe it or not, that Pacquiao went thru the Marquez experience before he faced Floyd. He demolished so many strong big guys that at one point he thought he was invincible and untouchable, and he got careless. Now he will be more aware and use his brain a bit more instead of his impulsive attacks.

[Vasyl’s dad]

The entire world wishes Floyd had the balls and courage of his fans.

[-Kev-]

After seeing Manny Pacquiao catch cramps against Mosley and Bradley, and get schooled and KTFO by Marquez all at 147, how can anyone believe Pacquiao beats Mayweather?

I mean Mosley and Bradley just showed a little movement and had Pacquiao chasing them. Pacquiao looked exhausted against Bradley at one point in his corner with his head back on the turnbuckle. Then Marquez schools him in the trilogy and then couterpunches him to near death.

Floyd literally does everything Mosley, Bradley and Marquez did all at once, 10x better, add in defense and elusiveness and Pacquiao's chances of winning goes down to 0.01%.

[thuggery]

It's almost as if everyone believes Floyd beats Manny except for the man himself. And it's quite alarming knowing that the man who would make a record payday does all he can to avoid the actual fight itself. It's weird.

[Vasyl’s dad]

It's almost as if everyone believes Floyd beats Manny except for the man himself. And it's quite alarming knowing that the man who would make a record payday does all he can to avoid the actual fight itself. It's weird.

Yea, but as long as the floboners say Floyd wins, that means he wins dammit!

You know how it goes, Floyd has fantasy fights against the guys in his own era.