Would Wlad Klitschko rule the entire Boxing World if weight classes were abolished?

[kiDynamite92]

And those people should be publically humiliated and later shot for their insolence

why? He didn't beat the man who beat the man as you would say.

[Elroy1]

why? He didn't beat the man who beat the man as you would say.

The lineage has been interrupted many times across all divisions.

The definition of "lineal champ" reads that in the event of a retirement etc of the lineal champ, an outstanding boxer can start his own lineage by clearing out and clearly becoming the best boxer in the division.

Wladimir has clearly done that ages ago. So anybody who doesn't acknowledge the lineage of Wladimir now..

Is simply a ****ing idiot!

[kiDynamite92]

The lineage has been interrupted many times across all divisions.

The definition of "lineal champ" reads that in the event of a retirement etc of the lineal champ, an outstanding boxer can start his own lineage by clearing out and clearly becoming the best boxer in the division.

Wladimir has clearly done that ages ago. So anybody who doesn't acknowledge the lineage of Wladimir now..

Is simply a ****ing idiot!

That's up for interpretation. The legit lineal champ retired after stopping Vitali and after that the lineage ended. Those that believe that the lineage can restart even if the lineal champ retires aren't even sure when the lineage was restarted! How legit is that??

[Butt stuff]

"They're both the same size"

Take away Shaq's size and make him the same size as Kobe, who wins. Oh it must be Kobe. Again, you have a mental block and cannot see things clearly.

SIZE MATTERS. Wlad fights the way he fights because he is 6'6. If he was 5'8, he would be a completely different Boxer. It's a dimwitted analogy that i've seen one too many times, including from "experts" on mythical fights, and it's about time someone refuted it.

Exactly, boxing skills alone, not that great but "good for a big man". P4P is greatness regardless of size, at least thats how I judge it. Also I ignored the Kobe/Shaq comments because I have no clue about Basketball etc.

Elroy made a good point as to comparing heavyweights to the rest of boxing, because their weight division isn't as much of a division as it is a free-for-all compared to the minutae pound differences and shrinkages in the other divisions. Size does completely matter there I agree, this is why its hard to rank Wlad on P4P.

I wouldn't say its a dimwitted analogy, because you can see as Floyd came up through the ranks he initially had height/reach advantages and fought really well with that. Then he eventually matched up against bigger fighters and has slowly changed his style over the years and kept winning. Could Wlad change his style and box just as well if he didnt have the size advantages? Thats the real question I'm asking.

[cupocity303]

Exactly, boxing skills alone, not that great but "good for a big man". P4P is greatness regardless of size, at least thats how I judge it. Also I ignored the Kobe/Shaq comments because I have no clue about Basketball etc.

Elroy made a good point as to comparing heavyweights to the rest of boxing, because their weight division isn't as much of a division as it is a free-for-all compared to the minutae pound differences and shrinkages in the other divisions. Size does completely matter there I agree, this is why its hard to rank Wlad on P4P.

I wouldn't say its a dimwitted analogy, because you can see as Floyd came up through the ranks he initially had height/reach advantages and fought really well with that. Then he eventually matched up against bigger fighters and has slowly changed his style over the years and kept winning. Could Wlad change his style and box just as well if he didnt have the size advantages? Thats the real question I'm asking.

You don't ask the Giant of all Giants if he could do just as well if a new Super-Giant came along, it's ridiculous. Unless a 7'2 guy comes along who can still perform as well as Klitschko can at 6'6 (as opposed to fighting like Valuev), then we'll find out. As it stands, he is THE MAN and it's not just his size that got him there, because there are plenty of fighters who were/are 6'6. But size is why he fights the way he fights. He is not gonna fight like 5'10 Mike Tyson, bobing' and weavin' to get on the inside, now is he?

Floyd cannot fight the way he fights at 6'6 (he would lose a lot more than his speed, he would probably lose his conditioning. Completely different body composition). Wlad WOULD NOT fight the way he fights right now if he were 5'8, and a 147-pounder. In fact he wouldn't be Wlad Klitschko at all, he would be a completely new person (like Boxing's sex change operation) Comparing their "In ring abilities" and conveniently ignoring size, is Boxing's equivalent to Affirmative action.

[Butt stuff]

You don't ask the Giant of all Giants if he could do just as well if a new Super-Giant came along, it's ridiculous. Unless a 7'2 guy comes along who can still perform as well as Klitschko can at 6'6 (as opposed to fighting like Valuev), then we'll find out. As it stands, he is THE MAN and it's not just his size that got him there, because there are plenty of fighters who were/are 6'6. But size is why he fights the way he fights. He is not gonna fight like 5'10 Mike Tyson, bobing' and weavin' to get on the inside, now is he?

Floyd cannot fight the way he fights at 6'6 (he would lose a lot more than his speed, he would probably lose his conditioning. Completely different body composition). Wlad WOULD NOT fight the way he fights right now if he were 5'8, and a 147-pounder. In fact he wouldn't be Wlad Klitschko at all, he would be a completely new person (like Boxing's sex change operation) Comparing their "In ring abilities" and conveniently ignoring size, is Boxing's equivalent to Affirmative action.

Ok maybe Floyd is a bad example, lets look at Toney. He was far above his natural weight class when he moved up to Cruiser and Heavy. He didn't have the same power or conditioning that he possessed at middle/super-middle, he was carrying a lot of fat as well.

So he lost any power/reach/height/speed advantages that he previously had. But he was such a good boxer and had such a great defense and movement (not speed) that he was able to adapt and still hang with the best of the big guys.

Thats what I'm getting at. Obviously you can't compare that with Wlad as he can't exactly move up in weight to fight ice giants or dinosaurs.

Great boxers can adapt to the hand they're dealt. Floyd would certainly not fight the same, and thats exactly what I'm trying to say.

[vman075]

Why is the idea ******? Is there a height and weight league for basketball players who are under 6 foot tall. Where average joe, 5'8 guys can get together and play amongst one another without worrying about a 7'5 behemoth? NO. If you're undersized, you have to be that much faster and more athletically gifted just to keep up.

Hypothetically, Roy Jones was one of those guys in his prime.

It's still ******. Basketball is a team sport, guys of different sizes can use their skill sets at different positions. If you're 5'8, you aren't going to be a center and have to match up against the 7'5 behemoth. Give or take a little, you are mostly matched up with guys around your size. Boxing has no positions made for smaller or bigger guys, it's man vs man. If you are small you are at a disadvantage period.

[Joeyzagz]

Oh god, another mythical matchup where Floyd fights someone outside his weight class or sport and takes an imaginary first loss.

The Cold truth is Wladimir, Mike Tyson, Rhonda Rhousey and Gsp would all get trampled if they attacked Floyd in real life cuz a team of 7 foot Bodyguards would give them the business. Floyd's made more money in sports than all 4 of them combined.

[SterlingStained]

Imagine if a Central Boxing Authority were formed and abolished all weight classes, and everyone had to compete with everyone. Imagine, no more affirmative action for smaller, inferior fighters.

I would imagine that a Wladimir Klitschko Vs Floyd Mayweather fight would be too unfair. Hayden Panettiere would laugh her ass off ringside thinking to herself, "Haha, I'm almost big enough to kick this guys ass".

You would have to make it a 2 on 1 handicap match on PPV, with Manny and Floyd temporarily joining forces as the "The Team of rivals", just to make it competitive . I do believe they would be able to topple him with Floyd keeping Wlad occupied by posing with his shoulder roll, while Manny unloads on him with flurry, combination punching. I don't think this would be beneath the collective brain power of Bob Arum and Richard Schaefer.

put two hundred pounds on that guy on your avatar and he takes that chinny little child fcker out.

wlad can be had with a athletic power puncher. all the guys wlad have fought lacked speed and athleticism.

i would favor kovalev if he put on close to 200lbs. id favor him to knock wlad out.

if ward doesnt fight him, kovalev should pull a roy jones and challenge wlad. call him out. get all political on his arse.

if he ko's wlad, kovalev would replace medvedev immediately as *****s right hand man.

that's a future true cool story bro.

[Butt stuff]

put two hundred pounds on that guy on your avatar and he takes that chinny little child fcker out.

wlad can be had with a athletic power puncher. all the guys wlad have fought lacked speed and athleticism.

i would favor kovalev if he put on close to 200lbs. id favor him to knock wlad out.

if ward doesnt fight him, kovalev should pull a roy jones and challenge wlad. call him out. get all political on his arse.

if he ko's wlad, kovalev would replace medvedev immediately as *****s right hand man.

that's a future true cool story bro.