Comments Thread For: Arum: If Pacquiao Looks Good, Mayweather Bout Can Happen

[Boxing Goat]

Firstly, what does P4P have to do with being "the man"? If that were the case, then Floyd would've made more than Oscar, seeing that he was P4P #1 when they fought! So, there goes that theory!

Next Pac's demand was 10 million per lb penalty for being overweight.

Both fighters demanded something governed by the commission.
Yet Floyd agreed while Pac made every excuse (including lying) why not to accept Floyd's demand. Floyd even compromised to get the fight made, yet Pac would not.

How can Floyd be ducking a guy who just got Ko'd is now fighting a B+ fighter to get some small redemption? Meanwhile he just came from beating the lineal JMW champ? A guy I might add who Pac wouldn't dream of fighting. Not too deluded are we?

I stopped reading at the bolded part. P4P#1 superceeds anything and everything when you are also Boxing's top earner. When you are the absolute best in the sport and make the most money, you call the shots. Like Floyd is NOW, NOT THEN.
Mayweather used drug testing protocol to avoid the fight, plain and simple.

Live with it.

[Boxing Goat]

Firstly, what does P4P have to do with being "the man"? If that were the case, then Floyd would've made more than Oscar, seeing that he was P4P #1 when they fought! So, there goes that theory!

Next Pac's demand was 10 million per lb penalty for being overweight.

Both fighters demanded something governed by the commission.
Yet Floyd agreed while Pac made every excuse (including lying) why not to accept Floyd's demand. Floyd even compromised to get the fight made, yet Pac would not.

How can Floyd be ducking a guy who just got Ko'd is now fighting a B+ fighter to get some small redemption? Meanwhile he just came from beating the lineal JMW champ? A guy I might add who Pac wouldn't dream of fighting. Not too deluded are we?

Oh yea, and you may notice here how Manny was the P4P best and boxings 1st or 2nd top earner from 2008-2012.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--2000s

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--2010s

That's 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011.

That's 4 years as P4P #1.

Everybody in boxing knows it was a 50/50 fight.

Now it may be different but it wasn't before so it's ignorant do dispute it.

Did you start watching boxing a year ago or what?

[megadeth]

My best guess is he has to win but really not look that good doing it!

Who fights guys coming of huge wins and who fights fighters looking less than stellar in their last outings??

The majority of fans wouldn't care just make the fight with Floyd! Floyds been waiting for this guy to go backwards for 5 years.
Well he is so make the fight and the favorite is now Floyd.

Funny, Floyd has ALWAYS been favored to win!

Funny how certain guys prefer to wait for some guys to be tripping over their beards instead of accepting their challenges when their in their prime!!!

Do you mean Mosley after Floyd/Snake and not after Margarito?
Marquez 3 & 4 not at 140 but 144 & 147??
Margarito after Mosley and a yr off and a bum??
Cotto after Margarito @ 145, but not after the confidence was back over 150??

Your right it is amazing, but what's more amazing is that Pac does it more than anyone, yet his minions ignore it and instead call out Floyd for doing it when he wanted all three fights(Oscar, Mosley, Cotto) much ealier!

[junior gong]

My best guess is he has to win but really not look that good doing it! The majority of fans wouldn't care just make the fight with Floyd! Floyds been waiting for this guy to go backwards for 5 years.
Well he is so make the fight and the favorite is now Floyd.
Funny how certain guys prefer to wait for some guys to be tripping over their beards instead of accepting their challenges when their in their prime!!!


"0" well hahahaha!!!! Ray.

Spot on, Ray. Its going to make the bumsniffers cry, but you are absolutely on the money.

[junior gong]

Who fights guys coming of huge wins and who fights fighters looking less than stellar in their last outings??



Funny, Floyd has ALWAYS been favored to win!



Do you mean Mosley after Floyd/Snake and not after Margarito?
Marquez 3 & 4 not at 140 but 144 & 147??
Margarito after Mosley and a yr off and a bum??
Cotto after Margarito @ 145, but not after the confidence was back over 150??

Your right it is amazing, but what's more amazing is that Pac does it more than anyone, yet his minions ignore it and instead call out Floyd for doing it when he wanted all three fights(Oscar, Mosley, Cotto) much ealier!

And tears we get!

[hhs661]

Arum talking about a Floyd fight? Must be time to piggyback for the fight.

[megadeth]

Oh yea, and you may notice here how Manny was the P4P best and boxings 1st or 2nd top earner from 2008-2012.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--2000s

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...r_Pound--2010s

That's 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011.

That's 4 years as P4P #1.

Everybody in boxing knows it was a 50/50 fight.

Now it may be different but it wasn't before so it's ignorant do dispute it.

Did you start watching boxing a year ago or what?

Did I challenge the fact that Pac was "so called" p4p?? Everyone also knows that he did d*ck all to cotinue to hold that title after he got it. The ONLY reason he did was because Floyd didn't fight more, because the comparison in competition....well...there is none.

This has never been a 50/50 fight. Some will say that, but I guarantee you, that most of the ones saying that wouldn't put their money down on Pac. Floyd was ALWAYS the betting favorite. Did you know that or did YOU just start watching boxing this year?

[DeadLikeMe]

Somebody explain how Manny can offer Floyd 100 mil I will wait for that dumb ass answer. Realistically how Manny make Floyd more money. Manny would need a bigger split than anybody Floyd has fought since Oscar so that less money out of his pocket. This isn't 2010 anymore when that fight would have done probably 3 Mil PPV. Right now it would do the numbers or slightly more than the Canelo fight. If Manny took the same split as Canelo did than sure Floyd could make more but he won't so he wouldn't.

I think people severely underestimate the amount of overlap there is between purchasers of Mayweather and Pacquiao PPVs. You have your sports bars and BW3s that carry all the major fights. There is a huge segment of people who are as likely to purchase a Pacquiao fight as they are to purchase a Mayweather fight. You have people like myself and many others on here who buy every Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto, Roy Jones PPV in Atlanta, and so on and so forth. I would be surprised if there were less than 60% overlap in who is buying fights. I would think if you discount the overlap you are looking at maybe 300,000 buys that are from people who are purely Pacquiao fans and about the same amount of people who are purely Mayweather fans.

The recent Pacquiao losses have greatly diminished his star power, and the extremely low numbers the Pacquiao-Rios PPV will only further reduce his leverage. At this point I don't see a Mayweather-Pacquiao PPV outselling Mayweather-ODLH, it might not even outsell Mayweather-Canelo.

[Boxing Goat]

Did I challenge the fact that Pac was "so called" p4p?? Everyone also knows that he did d*ck all to cotinue to hold that title after he got it. The ONLY reason he did was because Floyd didn't fight more, because the comparison in competition....well...there is none.

This has never been a 50/50 fight. Some will say that, but I guarantee you, that most of the ones saying that wouldn't put their money down on Pac. Floyd was ALWAYS the betting favorite. Did you know that or did YOU just start watching boxing this year?

Lol, you think Floyd has faced better opposition?

Sad, sad dude. Get Floyd's c*ck out of your mouth so you can see man.

Not only that, Floyd was fighting during those years, Manny was just facing better fighters more often.

The fight was 50/50 and anybody with sense knew that.

I'm done with you now.

[BoxingArtist]

At no point, ever, was Pac favored over Floyd. Never.