Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Weighing 142, Much Smaller Than Rios

[Det. Conan]

tick, tick, tick, tick, times almost up.

Up with what? hmmmm Ur just like Floyd, waiting for the expiration? hehe

[sampsonsimpson]

The only fights we were being critical of were Pacquiao-Clottey, Pacquiao-Margarito, Pacquiao-Mosley, Pacquiao-Marquez III, Pacquiao-Bradley, Pacquiao-Marquez IV, and Pacquiao-Rios so most of that article is completely irrelevant, so let us discuss those fights further.

Pacquiao-Clottey:



Pacquiao was fighting a guy coming off a loss, but it doesn't count as a real loss it is just a pretend loss. The author also insinuates here that Bradley lost to Provodnikov which is simply not the case. So the author thinks it doesn't count as a loss, therefore it is a good fight? Ok?

Pacquiao-Margarito:



Doesn't mention that Margarito was unranked and had been out of the ring for over a year. Was also for a joke paper strap (but lots of things are). But hey, Margarito looks like a welter to the author, so that makes the catchweight not matter. Don't worry Margarito looks small to the author, so it is a brave heroic challenge fighting an unranked fighter for a title.

Pac-Mosley:



The author admits it is a garbage fight.

Pacquiao-Marquez III, Bradley, Marquez IV:



Blown up lightweight that had looked terrible in his prior foray into the 147 division. Goes on to "lose" to Pacquiao while boxing his ears off in the Ring Magazine Robbery of the Year.

Then Pacquiao fights a JWW in Bradley. A good fight, but Bradley had made no noise at 147 so it isn't that spectacular a "win". Drops the championship rounds to a junior welter with two broken ankles. Not to mention that whole, judges awarding the match the Bradley thing.

Drags a 40 year old lightweight up to the full 147 lbs limit this time, ends up getting KTFO in KOTY fashion.

Brandon Rios - a deserved comeback fight after being KTFO. A career lightweight with two poor showings at junior welter and coming off of a loss. A win here does nothing except prove Pacquiao isn't shot. It isn't even a decent win.

Pacquiao did his ATG work in the lower divisions, his resume since Cotto is not very good. Top Rank smoke and mirrors. Bob Arum told you guys that the rabbit turds were caviar and you ate them right up. Here you are in 2013, where you can either keep eating rabbit turds and pretending they are caviar...or you can acknowledge that you've been eating a bunch of shit.

It makes me kind of sad that people thought this article was some scathing indictment of Pacquiao criticism. His arguments for certain fights being good boil down to "he looks small to me" and "he only kinda lost" while admitting to garbage fights at other points. Pac is an ATG and nothing is going to take away his work in the lower divisions, but his run at and above welter has been mediocre.

also, cotto was absolutely not the best at WW when manny fought him at 145

[New England]

if that's true, he could still fight at lightweight easily.

[Grimgash]

I don't see how fighting drained Canelo, washed up & past prime Cotto, Mosley, unrated p4p Ortiz, unrated p4p Guerrero, bloated JMM (w/ cheated on weight), enhanced KFC's legacy either. Why didnt he fought, William, Prime Cotto, Prime Mosley, Prime Margarito, GGG, Martinez w/c almost his size, Atleast Pac fought physically waaaayy Bigger than him. Its like Hagler fighting in Light heavyweight & heavyweight div. Isn't amazing?

Ill just ask you the same question, Pac weighed in higher in his last fight than Mayweather.... so Pac is bigger than mayweather...why didn't he fight them? Your turn...go!

[DeadLikeMe]

also, cotto was absolutely not the best at WW when manny fought him at 145

True, but it is still a good win. Something that cannot be said of any Pacquiao win since.

[Det. Conan]

Ill just ask you the same question, Pac weighed in higher in his last fight than Mayweather.... so Pac is bigger than mayweather...why didn't he fight them? Your turn...go!

Because floyd didnt want to, he offered pac straight 40m (w/ split w/TR) w/ "no share in PPV buys", Pac is earning around 15 to 20M guaranteed w/ lion share in PPV buys against any rated fighter. Why the hell pac accept it if he feels KFC is just outsmarting him???? doesn't make sense considering how big is that event. Do the math my friend.

[Det. Conan]

Ill just ask you the same question, Pac weighed in higher in his last fight than Mayweather.... so Pac is bigger than mayweather...why didn't he fight them? Your turn...go!

That's not true my friend:

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QKs_ftIoUd8/TsDBOUKgwEI/AAAAAAAACYo/mJLWsG_9Ckk/s1600/Tale+of+the+Tape+Pacquaio-Marquez+III+November+12%252C+2011.jpg.jpg

PAC - 148 VS JMM - 150 (4TH FIGHT) - (REHYDRATED)
FLOYD - 150 1/2 VS CANELO 152 - (EXCLUDING REHYDRATION)

[DARKSEID]

I think the reason Pacquiao fights at 147 is because training for a fight when you don't have to worry about your weight is completely different from having to watch what you eat and constantly having to work off all your weight.

I used to wrestle in high school and making weight was literally hell.

Training for a match and not being able to eat after, or maybe just eating a salad or some **** and being hungry all week on top of having to sweat everything off a couple days from the fight is completely different from

Training and then eating everything you want. When you can pig the **** out, not only do you feel 10 times stronger, but it feels like a reward from working so hard, and the next day you feel re-energized and ready to go.

[Evol]

Ill just ask you the same question, Pac weighed in higher in his last fight than Mayweather.... so Pac is bigger than mayweather...why didn't he fight them? Your turn...go!

Because PAC maxed out at 150, any higher and u might as well call him the pillsbury doughboy as compare to Floyd who chooses to stay lighter at 150 in his last fight BUT could weight higher if he wanted too. I believe team mayweather even said they wanted Floyd to stay light for that fight as compare to PAC fighting Marquez he wanted to bulk up thinking he'll get the ko this way. Stop acting clueless. So are u saying PAC is naturally bigger than floyd??

[bojangles1987]

if that's true, he could still fight at lightweight easily.

I don't think lightweight, but he should have campaigned at 140 and still could be there. Only reason he's not is likely laziness, political obligations, and money.