Andre Ward:I have a new arsenal. I have a lot of power in both hands!+Drug Testing

[Russian Crushin]

There is no case against him in the first place. How about:

1. His opponent drop out of the fight to make a statement

2. HBO drop him from the network until he agrees to testing

3. You the fans that have a problem with it boycott HBO unless they require Ward to agree to testing or drop him from the network

Case for what, for proving the he's clean? Someone has to force him to do it? This is laughable. He has said for years that he is an advocate of extra testing, years! A real "advocate" would sign up voluntarily like Donaire did. Yet not only has he not done that but he has to refused when publicly called out. Edwin called his bluff plain and simple, even said he'd pay for it

You're arguing the wrong thing, obviously he's not "guilty" of juicing because he's never failed a test but he is avoiding testing that will best determine if he's guilty of not. The question is why is he refusing to take the the test that he has advocated for years and is free of charge and will prove he's clean?

People have to force him to take it by dropping him off their network, or dropping out of a fight? This is ridiculous, how can you defend this?

But nobody wants to do **** about it and would rather ***** and complain as usual. Until somebody does something proactive, he's clean until proven otherwise.

The most proactive and easiest thing is Ward taking the test. Listen to yourself, other people have to do things like boycott, drop out of fights, or ban him to "force" him to take the tests when Ward can simply take the tests?

[Godsfly]

i have no problem with it if he takes testing after this fight (and for the remaining of his career) like he specified...........

[Godsfly]

Case for what, for proving the he's clean? Someone has to force him to do it? This is laughable. He has said for years that he is an advocate of extra testing, years! A real "advocate" would sign up voluntarily like Donaire did. Yet not only has he not done that but he has to refused when publicly called out. Edwin called his bluff plain and simple, even said he'd pay for it

You're arguing the wrong thing, obviously he's not "guilty" of juicing because he's never failed a test but he is avoiding testing that will best determine if he's guilty of not. The question is why is he refusing to take the the test that he has advocated for years and is free of charge and will prove he's clean?

People have to force him to take it by dropping him off their network, or dropping out of a fight? This is ridiculous, how can you defend this?


The most proactive and easiest thing is Ward taking the test. Listen to yourself, other people have to do things like boycott, drop out of fights, or ban him to "force" him to take the tests when Ward can simply take the tests?

his answer:

Rodriguez brought up the testing in a press conference & not at the negotiation table (which lead him to believe that it's nothing more then a stunt from Rodriguez) but after Rodriguez he will do the testing............


next question?

[Russian Crushin]

Shouldn't the principle of a cleaner sport trump whatever bullshit principle stand he's taking to avoid it? Andre Ward doesn't have his priorities straight. If Ward actually did care about the issue, he would do it regardless. Was he just being a flimflam man when he said this?

Or the principle of him saying he would take test, then refuse them when asked. The fact that he didnt put it in the contract makes no difference at all. Edwin is not demanding it, in fact he is doing testing year round whether Ward does it or not. He just called on Ward to do what he said he would. The fact that you need to put it in the contract for ward to take the test is ridiculous. Ward clearly has something to hide

[Russian Crushin]

his answer:

Rodriguez brought up the testing in a press conference & not at the negotiation table (which lead him to believe that it's nothing more then a stunt from Rodriguez) but after Rodriguez he will do the testing............


next question?

What a bull**** excuse. Yes its a stunt, one that called wards bluff. Doesnt he wanna prove that he's clean? Nope, apparently refusing something that you previously advocated because the other guy suggested it, is more important then proving that you're clean.

[Godsfly]

Or the principle of him saying he would take test, then refuse them when asked. The fact that he didnt put it in the contract makes no difference at all. Edwin is not demanding it, in fact he is doing testing year round whether Ward does it or not. He just called on Ward to do what he said he would. The fact that you need to put it in the contract for ward to take the test is ridiculous. Ward clearly has something to hide

yes it does..............everyone knows that everything is settle in negotiations. (EVERYTHING)

if Rodriguez didn't bring it up in negotiations he had no real intentions for both men undergo testing. him bringing it up at a press conference is a bit of a show & a stunt.

[King_]

I've said in the last thread, I don't think Ward is a cheat, and even if the testing thing was brought up after the negotiations and people are saying it's a stunt, why does that matter? If Ward is clean (I believe he is) why not just take the test and end speculation? The test would be free and harmless, it's not like he would lose anything taking the test, he can only gain from taking the test if he is clean, IMO


What does it matter if it's a stunt? A stunt for what, exactly? Rodriguez has nothing to gain besides a drug test..... If Ward thinks he's trying to bring this up as a publicity stunt to create controversy or something, he can just take the test and shut Edwin and everyone else up.


I don't want to stir **** up because I believe he's innocent until proven guilty, but it's almost like the test wasn't in the contract and IF, IF Ward was dirty, its kind of like "oh ****, I cant take a test now, I don't have enough time to cover up. Should of put it in the contract fool" etc... It just looks bad for someone who has been very vocal about drug testing himself, IMO

[Godsfly]

What a bull**** excuse. Yes its a stunt, one that called wards bluff. Doesnt he wanna prove that he's clean? Nope, apparently refusing something that you previously advocated because the other guy suggested it, is more important then proving that you're clean.

wait a minute.........

you agree that it was a stunt? thats EXACTLY what we're saying..........it's a stunt. you can't call a persons bluff when you bring up testing at a press conference. because if you were serious you would have brought it up in negotiations and it would have been settled there. period point blank


ward will do testing after this fight........he probably just doesn't care for Rodriguez publicity stunt.


if you don't bring it up at the discussion table it literally is worthless & you're probably trolling (if you bring it at a press conference of all places)

[Russian Crushin]

yes it does..............everyone knows that everything is settle in negotiations. (EVERYTHING)

if Rodriguez didn't bring it up in negotiations he had no real intentions for both men undergo testing. him bringing it up at a press conference is a bit of a show & a stunt.

Yes, a show to call wards bluff. Edwin is taking the test no matter what, while ward isnt because edwin "suggested it"

Everything will still go on if ward doesnt take the test, it will make no difference at all. This has nothing to do with edwin and everything to do with why Ward wont voluntarily take it. Ward is not being forced to take the test, but he is given the option, yet he chose no, while for 4 years saying testing is good for boxing

[Russian Crushin]

wait a minute.........

you agree that it was a stunt? thats EXACTLY what we're saying..........it's a stunt. you can't call a persons bluff when you bring up testing at a press conference, because if you were serious you would have brought it up in negotiations and it would have been settled there.

period point blank


ward will do testing after this fight........he probably just doesn't care for Rodriguez publicity stunt.


if you don't bring it up at the discussion table it literally is worthless & you're probably trolling if you bring it at a press conference of all places.

He gave ward the option, take the test to show you're clean or dont. He left it up to ward. But ward is like a little kid "I'm not gonna do it because he wants me to". You're still not getting it, Edwin is not demanding it, and never has. Its a PR stunt because Ward said no, Edwin has nothing to gain from Ward taking the test.

Ward doesnt have to take the tests. But why would anyone refuse to take test that is suggest and paid for and that he has advocated for years? THere is no excuse

period point blank