Question..Why did Morales not use the Reyes gloves?

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  • abdiel2k3
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    #21
    Originally posted by JOM'S
    i am a pacfan and not taking anything from Pac's victory over Erik but i do consider a lot of factors contributing to Pac's victory which includes but not limited to ... focus, training, using the right hand more, stick with gameplan (attack both body and the head), added confidence using his "Gloves", added punch impact using Reyes, Erik vulnerable at 130 (he should have paid PAC 1.25M Dollars to add at five pounds)...

    EM interview after PAC-EM 1 .... I did not feel his power, out of 10 he is a five (winning)

    EM interview after PAC-EM 2 ... he hits hard (Reyes)

    I am not saying that by using a different gloves alone will win a fight but IMHO it does contribute something to the outcome of a fight how little of a fraction it maybe ...
    idk
    to me
    the gloves had nothin to do with it
    i dont think they really gave him more confidence
    his confidence came from the all the other stuff u mentioned
    better trainin
    better plan
    better excecution of his plan
    morales say before he didnt hit hard wasnt cuz of the gloves
    its becuz pac was not 100%prepared
    well atleast to me
    to me the gloves are never goin to be a legitamte excuse/reason/whatever
    pac trained better this time around
    and he took his oppurtunity in the fight and ran with it
    thats boxing
    to me eriks still more skilled
    he just got beat

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    • miron_lang
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      #22
      to be with the majority I'dd say the gloves didnt matter

      But could you guys give me any idea why ARUM and team Morales made sure that PAC will wear the gloves of their choice in the 1 st fight by stipulating it in the contract????


      but id say it didnt matter, maybe arum think it does?? - uLOL

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      • abdiel2k3
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        #23
        for reals
        just to *** with pac
        just cuz they could
        u know what i mean
        a power trip
        its nothin big
        but i say so
        so its so kinda thing

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        • miron_lang
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          #24
          Originally posted by abdiel2k3
          for reals
          just to *** with pac
          just cuz they could
          u know what i mean
          a power trip
          its nothin big
          but i say so
          so its so kinda thing
          Could be....i can agree with that..

          i agree that we need to produce more PAC caliber fighters to make it a country rivaly.

          we have produced Good to Great Boxers in Villa, Elorde, Garcia, Villaflor, Navarette, Espinosa (Who beat a handfull of tough mexicans of his time), penalosas


          as well as promising young guns in Mayol, Tunacao, Bautista, GOrres, Jaca and our only half current champion(half because he lives in hawaii), Villoria.


          I really hope a rivalry developed, a healthy one

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          • abdiel2k3
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            #25
            ya
            thats what makes it a rivalry
            top guys taken on top guys
            i mean those gusy u mentioned beatin a lot of tough mexicans isnt grounds for a rivalry
            lots of countrys have lots of fighters that have lots of wins over "tough" mexicans
            but what makes the mex-PR a rivalry
            is our top guns go to war
            and many top guns

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            • mic573
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              #26
              The only thing the gloves did for Pacquiao was help him mentally.

              Mayweather has used the same pillow gloves in his last three fights and has three stoppages. He used the pillow gloves against Ndou and stopped him. He used the pillow gloves against Corley and got a few knockdowns with them. I think he even used them against Jesus Chavez and Mayweather's the only one to stop him.
              Last edited by mic573; 02-01-2006, 10:24 AM.

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              • SnoopySmurf
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                #27
                Morales has very prominant knuckles. He usually wears Winning gloves except with he fought Jesus Chavez. He borked his right hand whilst using Reyes gloves.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by mic573
                  The only thing the gloves did for Pacquiao was help him mentally.

                  Mayweather has used the same pillow gloves in his last three fights and has three stoppages. He used the pillow gloves against Ndou and stopped him. He used the pillow gloves against Corley and got a few knockdowns with them. I think he even used them against Jesus Chavez and Mayweather's the only one to stop him.
                  Manny Steward said that Pac has never really used Winning before. And with Winning, he wasn't able to close his fist all the way like he can with Reyes.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                    The gloves do not matter, it is the boxer in em not the gloves.


                    Mayweather used to hurt his hands alot. I thought I read where he said that after he switched gloves, his hands are much more protected. I was watching a broadcast and they referred to the gloves as "pillows".

                    But as with ANY other piece of sports equipment, it's a matter of what you feel comfortable with - and that comfort breeds confidence.

                    Tiger Woods used an out-of-date driver for a long time. Baseball players go ballistic if you change their bats.

                    Manny feels comfortable in Reyes, and Erik likes Winning.

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                    • Bogler
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
                      Manny Steward said that Pac has never really used Winning before. And with Winning, he wasn't able to close his fist all the way like he can with Reyes.
                      I think this may be the right explanation. If Pac's not able to punch in a way his fist is accustomed to, then he might not be punching more confidently or with the extra power. With Winning, it's hard to really close your fist.

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