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  • dc3383
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    #21
    Originally posted by BafanaBafana
    Lara v. Martirosyan (November 10, 2012)

    It wasn't impossible for GBP and Top Rank to work together before the GBP/HBO feud. GBP low-blowed HBO by sending their top stars (who HBO invested millions promoting) to Showtime and tried forcing HBO into overpaying for mismatches and turning down big competitor PPV fights for mismatches (see: Martinez v. Chavez Jr PPV/Canelo v. Josesito September 14 date feud).
    I'm thinking HBO is regretting that decision everyday

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    • BafanaBafana
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      #22
      Originally posted by dc3383
      I'm thinking HBO is regretting that decision everyday
      It was a very logical decision though. A 500K PPV fight vs. an overpriced WCB/BAD fight for the September 14 date. One was a lineal Middleweight fight between the Champion and the perceived #1 contender, the other an unproven prospect w/a gift wrapped 154 title v. a 140 journeyman moving up. Made perfect sense at the time.

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      • dc3383
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        #23
        Originally posted by BafanaBafana
        It was a very logical decision though. A 500K PPV fight vs. an overpriced WCB/BAD fight for the September 14 date. One was a lineal Middleweight fight between the Champion and the perceived #1 contender, the other an unproven prospect w/a gift wrapped 154 title v. a 140 journeyman moving up. Made perfect sense at the time.
        At the time your right; but now it was a horrible decision Chavez jr is a side show while Canelo was part of the biggest event in history.

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        • The Ninth Layer
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          #24
          Originally posted by dc3383
          I'm thinking HBO is regretting that decision everyday
          Why do you say that? HBO is doing fine. They've got top fighters in multiple divisions.

          Golden Boy has a great roster from 140-154. Outside of the welterweight division and its neighboring weight classes though they have very little presence.

          Originally posted by dc3383
          At the time your right; but now it was a horrible decision Chavez jr is a side show while Canelo was part of the biggest event in history.
          Chavez-Martinez was a huge fight at the time, a match that had been building for nearly a year and a half. Canelo-Lopez was a joke fight, it was almost embarrassing for the sport.

          Hindsight is 20/20, but HBO didn't make a mistake going with Chavez-Martinez.
          Last edited by The Ninth Layer; 10-27-2013, 03:51 AM.

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          • dc3383
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            #25
            Originally posted by The Ninth Layer
            Why do you say that? HBO is doing fine. They've got top fighters in multiple divisions.

            Golden Boy has a great roster from 140-154. Outside of the welterweight division and its neighboring weight classes though they have very little presence.



            Chavez-Martinez was a huge fight at the time, a match that had been building for nearly a year and a half. Canelo-Lopez was a joke fight, it was almost embarrassing for the sport.

            Hindsight is 20/20, but HBO didn't make a mistake going with Chavez-Martinez.
            I agree Chavez-martinez was the bigger but we all know Canelo vs Lopez was his 4th opponent literally. Golden Boy has more brand name fighters than anybody. What helps HBO more than anything is 6 mil subs difference between them and Showtime.

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            • Check_hooks
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              #26
              BHop knows the numbers that SHO and GBP are doing and how much money they are bringing in and they are very likely in the red

              The Guerrerro fight lost $12 mill and the Canelo fight barely broke even.

              The reason why HBO dropped GBP is because they were losing money overpaying hypejobs on GBP's roster. The same thing is happening at SHO and BHop knows it

              Thats why hes on his knees begging for HBO and Top Rank to take him back

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              • .:: JSFD26 ::.
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                #27
                What did Hopkins say?


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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PBP
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                  Originally Posted by Light_Speed

                  At 175/168 it's more about the cold war between HBO and Golden Boy.

                  Really. The only thing I can think of here is to cancel your entire HBO and ShowTime subscriptions.

                  But from 154 and up, the Cold War doesn't bother me. 147 and below is where its really hurting the sport.
                  People say this all the time and complain but still do nothing about it.

                  I already got rid of both networks. Streams on the phone ftw.


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                  • Cinci Champ
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                    Although I wouldn't do this (I subscribe to both networks), I would recommend boycotting GBP/Showtime/Floyd PPVs, and then maybe GBP will agree to have some of their fighters fight on HBO like they used to. HBO kicked them out for getting too greedy.
                    do you work for hbo?

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                    • Joey_Torreo
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hougigo
                      By him fighting or him negotiating?
                      Top Rank doesn't have any LHW to even begin ending it... only two I remember are Mike Lee and Seanny Monghahen
                      The way he was talking in his post fight interview I got the impression he was talking about ending the Cold War between showtime and hbo

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