PAC is the only fighter Floyd would face with some real bad blood. Floyd should have presented the testing as a professional instead of accusing like a kid.
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Originally posted by Evol View Postand if that was the case then why wouldnt floyd said anything about manny is always turning my offer down?? instead he goes off topic and starts asking questions like where was manny at in 96, etc??
There will always be a segment of the media that will never report the facts, they, like you, will blame floyd for everything. When he was playing the villian they could get away with it.
But floyd isn't playing the villian anymore. His stus as the best fighter in the world and the face of the sport is solidified. He is getting much more friendlier press and he isn't responding to his critics in such a chilidish way.
Floyd seems to have realized that manny did this to himself. Had he not tried to CW cotto again, he wouldn't have had to fight JMM 4 , not been KO'd, and maybe things would be different.
Instead, his game backfired, cotto said no, manny got KTFO, and floyd whitewashed Canelo and made almost $90 mil. So now manny is calling him out again, expecting to get the same offer from 4 years ago-while simulutaneously trying to get JMM for a 5th fight without paying him what he wants.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View Postexactly. before floyd would get frustrated and go HAM. Now, he's finally realized what the deal is. Manny wants the fight up until an offer is placed in front of him. He never accepts the offer because he knows his fans will not hold him accountable.
When manny turns down floyd you and other posters blame the offer floyd made. WHen tim and JMM and cotto turn manny down you and manny fans say those guys are scared. SO its always the other guy and never manny.
SO my guess is floyd just got tired of always hearing this kind of crap and didn't give manny or his fans anything to run with. He relied simply and accurately that manny has to come back from the KO.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View Postfloyd foolishly tried to win the media war while also playing the villian role. SO if you want to criticize him for his response fine with me. He hasn't done that lately and he doesn't need to.
There will always be a segment of the media that will never report the facts, they, like you, will blame floyd for everything. When he was playing the villian they could get away with it.
But floyd isn't playing the villian anymore. His stus as the best fighter in the world and the face of the sport is solidified. He is getting much more friendlier press and he isn't responding to his critics in such a chilidish way.
Floyd seems to have realized that manny did this to himself. Had he not tried to CW cotto again, he wouldn't have had to fight JMM 4 , not been KO'd, and maybe things would be different.
Instead, his game backfired, cotto said no, manny got KTFO, and floyd whitewashed Canelo and made almost $90 mil. So now manny is calling him out again, expecting to get the same offer from 4 years ago-while simulutaneously trying to get JMM for a 5th fight without paying him what he wants.
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Originally posted by Evol View Postim not " u guys", i never said jmm and cotto is scared. if floyd was getting tired because manny keeps turning his offer down then why wouldnt he say anything about it?? i have yet to hear floyd mention about manny is always turning my offer down thats why im acting like this in any of his raging interview.
instead he goes off topic asking where was manny at, manny is on steriods, his head got bigger, he eats dogs, etc. also like i mention floyd recently went public about how nmanny is a has been and his career is over, to me thats still taking shots at manny when the question being aksed has nothing to do with what floyd thinks about manny and his career.
Look evol, i cant make you admit manny's shortcomings and nor how his actions have contributed to the fight not getting made. You just wont do it.
The bottom line is Manny is floyd's best b side. Because manny turned the fight down in 09 for no good reason, floyd seems to have decided he will make manny beg him for a fight and then pay him as little as possible to fight. Floyd is doing everything to manny that manny does to his b sides-low ball, make them join his promotional company, etc.
so its either a) manny and floyd are both wrong or b) niether is wrong. you pick and let me know.
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Originally posted by Evol View Postwhen manny is being asked about floyd and u can tell he's getting tired of hearing about floyd he just simply answer i want to fight him but what can i do if he doesnt wanna fight me. so if floyd is tired of hearing about manny why wouldnt he come out and say the things u mention instead dude just goes off topic lol..
WHen JMM/cotto/tim turn down manny's offers to fight-you criticize them for not taking the best payday of their career or say their ducking or scared or whatever.
How you and other pac fans can flip like this is nauseating. Everything is always the other guy's fault or its Bob is holding him prisoner.
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Originally posted by WholeSoul75 View PostPAC is the only fighter Floyd would face with some real bad blood. Floyd should have presented the testing as a professional instead of accusing like a kid.
It's time to stop hiding behind that. Manny simply did not want the fight even when pretending to negotiate with Floyd, manny got what he asked for and still walked.
He did not want the fight for whatever reason. The blame falls on manny
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostPointing out hypocricy does not mean you hate Pac or his fans. Holding manny accountable for his actions doesn't mean you hate him.
Also there's still a lot of sign of hate.
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Originally posted by SD180sx View PostBut is there not hypocrisy from both side? And I agree Pac should be accountable for his action but without bending or misinterpreting his action.
Also there's still a lot of sign of hate.
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I have never thought that Manny was ever scared or trying to avoid a Floyd fight. In the other hand I really think Arum was afraid of losing his cash cow and Freddie in the beggining was a little timid to put him in with Floyd.
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