Who do you want to see Ruslan Provodnikov fight next?

[Evol]

One of them gets another trainer. Not that big a deal. ruslan has other options, especially after a big win.

Lampley (really HBO) made this point sat nite and I thought it was bull****. Same as he did with ward v ggg. If the best fighting the best is what we keep hearing HBO tell us they are doing then guys coming off wins should fight each other. WHy would ruslan fight JMM or the manny/rios loser next?

If ruslan loses -he loses. so what?

yea get a new trainer for one of the biggest fight in his career. this only works with fighters u dont like. if this was someone else the thought of getting a new trainer for one of his biggest fights would have been suicidal thoughts for u.

[SlySlickSmooth]

One of them gets another trainer. Not that big a deal. ruslan has other options, especially after a big win.

Lampley (really HBO) made this point sat nite and I thought it was bull****. Same as he did with ward v ggg. If the best fighting the best is what we keep hearing HBO tell us they are doing then guys coming off wins should fight each other. WHy would ruslan fight JMM or the manny/rios loser next?

If ruslan loses -he loses. so what?

It's not that he loses, its the fact they are trained by the same man, its the bond. Its kind of ridiculous, Roach brought those two men up and he trains them. Its understandable because Arum made it this way by not making a 3rd fight with Mike/Brandon.. but thats where Arum fooled you guys, Arum toys with careers and its ****ed up.

Ruslan should be fighting someone in the 140 too, Manny and Brandon are at 147 and Ruslan just beat a JMW because Alvarado weighed in at 158 fight night(I believe).

Give Ruslan, Lamont Peterson or Lucas Matthysse, a lot of people said before that Rios and Alvarado were B/C grade fighters so both the two mentioned should be step ups accordingly.

[The Big Dunn]

maybe this is why u want to see it happen so bad?

yea get a new trainer for one of the biggest fight in his career. this only works with fighters u dont like. if this was someone else the thought of getting a new trainer for one of his biggest fights would have been suicidal thoughts for u.

This is what I get for treating you like a boxing fan instead of a fringe manny fan. wont happen again.

Given the situation, I said ruslan gets a new trainer because I assumed Roach would stay with Manny who is the bigger fighter. This way ruslan can at least get the payday. Didn't cotto just get a new trainer for his biggest fight?

Nevermind I'll leave you alone.

It's not that he loses, its the fact they are trained by the same man, its the bond. Its kind of ridiculous, Roach brought those two men up and he trains them. Its understandable because Arum made it this way by not making a 3rd fight with Mike/Brandon.. but thats where Arum fooled you guys, Arum toys with careers and its ****ed up.

Ruslan should be fighting someone in the 140 too, Manny and Brandon are at 147 and Ruslan just beat a JMW because Alvarado weighed in at 158 fight night(I believe).

Give Ruslan, Lamont Peterson or Lucas Matthysse, a lot of people said before that Rios and Alvarado were B/C grade fighters so both the two mentioned should be step ups accordingly.

I was keeping with the curent tr/gbp political environment.

Ruslan fought tim at 147 so clearly its a weight he can make. From Ruslan's point-it just doesn't make sense or him to fight someone coming off a loss. For him to fight JMM or Rios (should he lose) makes no sense.

As for a 140lb title defense, who does TR have at that weight right now?

[Public_Enemy]

I would love to see him fight Matthysse, Maidana, Thurman or Danny Garcia. Since Ruslan will only be fighting on HBO, his options are limited.

The only possible fights in the immediate future seem to be Bradley, Alvarado II, or Rios. I doubt he fights Pacquiao because they have the same trainer and I can't see him fighting JMM either.

Rios/Provodnikov is a war. I wouldn't mind seeing that. But do you throw Rios to him presumably coming off back to back losses.

Alvarado/Provodnikov would be awesome but I doubt Mike wants it. He definitely doesn't want an immediate rematch. Alvarado needs a vacation.

Bradley/Provodnikov was a great fight. It's my pick for Ruslan's next fight. It would be interesting to see what adjustments each fighter makes.

Other (less desirable) options include: Mayfield, Hank Lundy, Abregu, and Kell Brook.

[Evol]

This is what I get for treating you like a boxing fan instead of a fringe manny fan. wont happen again.

Given the situation, I said ruslan gets a new trainer because I assumed Roach would stay with Manny who is the bigger fighter. This way ruslan can at least get the payday. Didn't cotto just get a new trainer for his biggest fight?

Nevermind I'll leave you alone.




I was keeping with the curent tr/gbp political environment.

Ruslan fought tim at 147 so clearly its a weight he can make. From Ruslan's point-it just doesn't make sense or him to fight someone coming off a loss. For him to fight JMM or Rios (should he lose) makes no sense.

As for a 140lb title defense, who does TR have at that weight right now?

There u go again, when did I even mention mannys name? If ruslan is gonna be fighting PAC this would be ruslan biggest fight, it wouldn't mean anything for him to go get a new trainer that will have to learn and teach ruslan in that short amount of time plus to make matters worst ruslan would be going up against his old sparring mate and the guy who trained him. Yea no big deal right, and which fight was cotto in that was his biggest fight?? And did he went up against his old trainer?? GTFO with that nonsense!

[The Big Dunn]

There u go again, when did I even mention mannys name? If ruslan is gonna be fighting PAC this would be ruslan biggest fight, it wouldn't mean anything for him to go get a new trainer that will have to learn and teach ruslan in that short amount of time plus to make matters worst ruslan would be going up against his old sparring mate and the guy who trained him. Yea no big deal right, and which fight was cotto in that was his biggest fight?? And did he went up against his old trainer?? GTFO with that nonsense!

you didn't have to. your response made that clear.

I'm simply saying ruslan can get a new trainer so he can get the payday that comes with fighting manny. A trainer doesn't have to change his style. In fact he may teach him some things that could help him.

It's as if you are saying ruslan can never fight manny simply because they trained together. SO ruslan, in your scenario, can keep winning but never have those wins pay off with the biggest fight he can have? sorrThat doesn't seem to fair.

I ge why HBO is against them fighting but why would a fan, especially since Provod beat the guy who Manny is fighting next?
Cotto got Diaz to trian him for the floyd fight. No, he wasn't going up against his old trainer.

[Evol]

you didn't have to. your response made that clear.

I'm simply saying ruslan can get a new trainer so he can get the payday that comes with fighting manny. A trainer doesn't have to change his style. In fact he may teach him some things that could help him.

It's as if you are saying ruslan can never fight manny simply because they trained together. SO ruslan, in your scenario, can keep winning but never have those wins pay off with the biggest fight he can have? sorrThat doesn't seem to fair.

I ge why HBO is against them fighting but why would a fan, especially since Provod beat the guy who Manny is fighting next?
Cotto got Diaz to trian him for the floyd fight. No, he wasn't going up against his old trainer.

and im saying why would ruslan get a new trainer for one of his biggest fight? are u not seeing the big picture here?? so manny is his only big fight, is that what u're trying to say here? lmao! and cotto got with diaz for the marg 2 fight which is before the floyd fight, u prolly forgot about that too.

[The Big Dunn]

and im saying why would ruslan get a new trainer for one of his biggest fight? are u not seeing the big picture here?? so manny is his only big fight, is that what u're trying to say here? lmao! and cotto got with diaz for the marg 2 fight which is before the floyd fight, u prolly forgot about that too.

and im saying why would ruslan get a new trainer for one of his biggest fight? are u not seeing the big picture here??
he would get a new trainer for the manny fight because roach also trains manny and likely will stay with manny because he is the higher profile fighter. this way ruslan can get the manny payday he earned by beating mike.

so manny is his only big fight, is that what u're trying to say here?

its the biggest fight ruslan can get given the tr/gbp dynamic. so I don't think ruslan should have to fight JMM or the loser of manny/rios since just won. why should rusla nhave to settle for smaller paydays?

cotto got with diaz for the marg 2 fight which is before the floyd fight

ok so he gota new trainer for that fight. fighters get new trainers plenty of times. Besides, it would be a one fight thing just so ruslan could get the big payday.

[Evol]

and im saying why would ruslan get a new trainer for one of his biggest fight? are u not seeing the big picture here??
he would get a new trainer for the manny fight because roach also trains manny and likely will stay with manny because he is the higher profile fighter. this way ruslan can get the manny payday he earned by beating mike.

so manny is his only big fight, is that what u're trying to say here?

its the biggest fight ruslan can get given the tr/gbp dynamic. so I don't think ruslan should have to fight JMM or the loser of manny/rios since just won. why should rusla nhave to settle for smaller paydays?

cotto got with diaz for the marg 2 fight which is before the floyd fight

ok so he gota new trainer for that fight. fighters get new trainers plenty of times. Besides, it would be a one fight thing just so ruslan could get the big payday.

i know fighters switch trainers but u're saying it shouldnt be a big deal for ruslan to just switch trainer especially if he's gonna be in one of his biggest fight and he would be going up against his old trainer. why wouldnt this be a big deal? and whos to say ruslan would get a big pay day against pac? thought top rank is cheap?? and whos to say pac would win against rios??

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

while I agree Pac and Provo should indeed fight...saying switching trainers is "not a big deal" is a pile of BS