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  • Frank Ducketts
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    #11
    Mike would've been better off just doing what he did in the Rios rematch.

    The funny thing is, is that I think Rios would beat Provodnikov.

    I think that Prov's hands would be too fast for Alvarado in the rematch.

    That **** that AL tried last night was crazy to watch.

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    • Sugar Adam Ali
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      #12
      I thought ruslan started fast and took round 1,,

      but mike looked real sharp in rds 2,3 but then seemed not to be able to handle ruslan's bodywork and pressure,,,,,

      I like how mike kept his guard high and tight, but he didnt make ruslan pay for coming in..

      Mike should have:

      1. used the jab and move like he did in 2,3
      2. when ruslan comes in, mike needed to uppercut, step off,
      3. when both lean in, ruslan was open target for the hooks, but mike really didnt throw any, if you watch the fight, many times both leaned in and ruslan was there to be hit with short tight hooks,,

      If mike could do those things for the whole fight, he would have a chance, but honestly i think mike couldnt handle ruslan's power, especially to the body

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      • Bushidō
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        #13
        I'm not really sure what kind of strategy would have worked. Alvarado would have to really sit down on his punches and make Raslan think twice but that could mean he would get stopped even earlier.

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        • rzagza
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          #14
          Newsflash to his trainer: He loses this fight 10/10 times. Alvarado doesn't have the speed/boxing acumen to beat a relentless powerful guy with an iron chin like this. Rios is not Provodnikov. Pac will expose Rios for what he is next month.

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          • rzagza
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            #15
            Originally posted by Frank Ducketts
            Mike would've been better off just doing what he did in the Rios rematch.

            The funny thing is, is that I think Rios would beat Provodnikov.

            I think that Prov's hands would be too fast for Alvarado in the rematch.

            That **** that AL tried last night was crazy to watch.
            Rios sucks. He needs to stay at 135. He doesn't have the requisite skills to beat the bigger, faster more skilled guys at 140-47 because his power doesn't really carry past 135. Hell he couldn't even deal with Richard Abril. He's going to get exposed badly by Manny. At least he's getting paid.

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            • .Mexico.
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              #16
              Originally posted by TheMexHurricane
              Ruslan Provodnikov wasn't so eager to get close when Mike was sticking and moving and Ruslan's punch output decreased but Mike got over confident and started taking too many body shots on the inside. Mike was the better boxer and was taking Ruslan's punches much better than he did Rios punches but the body punches add up before you realize it's too late. Mike wanted to put on a good show for the home crowd. He's going to lose alot of money now. I feel really bad for the kid.
              Originally posted by The Weebler I
              That's how I saw it too, I had him well ahead until he got sloppy and engaged up close too much.

              I'm not sure I agree with his trainer's assessment at all. Boxing is the way to beat Provodnikov but you have to be fit and stay disciplined not to engage toe to toe too often.
              I blame Rudy for this, at the end of round 5 Mike went to his corner and Rudy tells him to stop running and mike tells him it looks like I am running and from their on mike stopped boxing and started to try and trade more.

              Rudy wouldent have told mike to stop running he might have made it the distance with the pot shot and move strategy he was doing.

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              • .Mexico.
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                #17
                Originally posted by rzagza
                Rios sucks. He needs to stay at 135. He doesn't have the requisite skills to beat the bigger, faster more skilled guys at 140-47 because his power doesn't really carry past 135. Hell he couldn't even deal with Richard Abril. He's going to get exposed badly by Manny. At least he's getting paid.
                I wouldent say that, Rios has one shot power to hurt Mike Ruslan didnt he just weared down Mike, Rios hurt Mike several times with single shots.

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                • MDPopescu
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  Alavarado is a brawler first. He moves at times but isn't effective when he does it. He needs to plant his feet and exchange to stage his attack. You can't change his instincts. Very few will outbrawl Provodnikov.

                  Rematch will be no different.
                  Provodnikov isn't just a brawler... You guys are not familiarized with the "ex-Soviet school of boxing" -- that school is based on hard punching and endurance, but there is number of other skills (taught by the above mentioned school) which are not transparent for fighters in the Americas...

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                  • Los Zetas
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    Provodnikov is only effective on the inside, some strategic clinching would have been very beneficial to Alvarado's cause. Letting a guy eat you alive on the inside is not a wise move if you are the better guy at range.

                    But hey who cares if guys are really trying to win or not they should just lose a fight without trying~
                    You can not hold in boxing. So I don't agree with clinching.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      it was the wrong strategy. he should have used the wlad-povetkin strategy. hold everytime opponent gets close! that way he would be called the most dominant 140 pounder.
                      ... Well, you're not far from the truth! Not far at all...

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